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Hello Stan, welcome to the group.There were 91 episodes spread over 8 series
broadcast originally from 1971 to 1980. If you have satellite or cable TV and
live in the UK the first two series are being shown on UK Drama
channel starting on Monday. These are also available commercially on DVD (or VHS
tape) check Amazon or eBay etc.As for series 4 onwards these are not
available on tape or DVD commercially yet and I don't know if they ever
will be, which is a shame as there are so many good story lines as the saga
unfolds in the later episodes. The whole series was repeated on UK Gold about
1993-94 so there is a chance they will appear again one day. Members of this
list keep mailing the cable channel UK Drama asking for more of the series to be
shown (at least I hope they do) so who knows maybe we'll get another series or
two out of them.I made a small website with some info and links to
other Onedin themed sites at:http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm You
might find it interesting.Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
stanSent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:57
PMSubject: [shiponedingroup] new group
memberHello all just found this group and have found it very
interesting.Having spent a lifetime on ships i never got to see the
series on tv has i was most of the time at sea.Just finished watching
series three. What i,d like to know is how many series were made and
are they all available on dvd yet. I got my series 3 from Holland just
recently for all in price of £14............ StanMarianneNice to see the site developing! Is there
a lager version of the image of the 1996 Radio Times feature
anywhere?Must get some more work and episode
descriptions on my site, I've given your site top mention in my links section,
should you want to return the favour here is the url:ATB Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
Marianne van
HiltenSent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:26
PMSubject: [shiponedingroup] WebsiteHi group
members,The gilmore-stallybrass website is
updated. Though its far from finished there is a lot added, especially in The
Onedin section.http://www.gilmore-stallybrass.com
Enjoy
Marianne
Yes, Kate played Leonora Biddulph, there was a
little competition for the affections of James between her and Caroline Maudsley
( played by Caroline Harris).Series 3 titles were (13
episodes):
30 The Ship
Devils
31 The Stranger
32
Echoes from Afar
33 Amazon
Cargo
34 Danger Level
35
Black Gold
36 Law of the
Fist
37 Ice and Fire
38 A
Proposal of Marriage
39 Over the
Horizon
40 The Silver
Caddy
41 Port Out, Starboard
Home
42 The PassengerBill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
gduch2001Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:23
AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] Re: series 3
on dvd [was] UKTV Drama episodes--- is this the one with Kate Neligan? I dont think
its very good..G
>
> Bill.
>
I vaguely remember some controversy when the
episode was originally aired, in those days it was my mother who was the big fan
of the series and I had to keep quiet while it was on – if I was in! I
think there was some complaints about the portrayal of black people being
stereotyped, that sort of thing. but after all these years I'm not really
sure.Having said that I think the decision to cut
it (and Bloody Week) was more to do with running time of VHS tapes,
you can get different standard length tapes for PAL (Europe) which are mainly 2,
3, and 4 hours. For America's NTSC system I think the equivalent gives
shorter time for the same amount of tape, or US readers may put me right on
this. Any length of tape of within the limits of the system is possible but
I would suppose it might be a question of production cost?Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
gduch2001Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:12
AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] Re: the eps on
UK DramaCry of hte Blackbird? I havne't seen all the first
series on UK
Drama, as its on when i get home from work, and if Im late I
might
not bother watching. which one is that as I have never seen
it? why
is it controversial?
I enjoyed Bloody Week, as I said,
soem of the acting was a bit !"Allo
Allo" but overall i thought that it
was good and i didn't think that
it was an implausible development for
James, that he shoudl tihnk a
little about politics and morality in such a
situation, I really
liked that aspect of it.G
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<william.whittaker1@n...> wrote:
> 2 episode were dropped one each
from series 1 and 2. I've heard
suggestions that Cry of the Blackbird from
1 was a bit controversial
at the time the VHS recordings were first
offered, political
correctness creeping in or some such nonsense, and that
Bloody Week
from 2 did not really lose much to the thread of the story and
was
not up to the standard of the rest of the production anyway. (Which
is a matter of opinion - not necessarily mine).
>
> I suspect
the real reasons were more to do with the length of VHS
cassettes and
perhaps some repeat fee arguments, I wonder if anyone
knows for
sure?
>
> Bill.
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> From: gduch2001
> To:
shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 30,
2005 10:42 AM
> Subject: [shiponedingroup] the eps on UK
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> Hi, now that its finsished I must
say that I've enjoyed watchign
> although i have most of
htem on video anyway. I havnt noticed
cuts -.
>
> even my partner who didn't like it much has takne to
watching and
> saying that he was grwowing to enjoy it a
lot...
> it was good to see the French ep which i havene't
seen since i
was a
> child, it was a bit "Allo Allo" in
some ways but still it was
very
> enjoyable. I
had to giggle when elizabeth sold the potatoes to
teh
>
Prussian captain.. surely Eliz cuold have offered him soemthing
> else!
>
> I wonder if it
was dropped from the videos becuase it did show
James
>
as a bit more kindly and principled than he usually is and they
felt
> it wwas a bit out of character.
>
> does anyone have any thoughts
>
> G
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28/07/2005Diana,I just checked 2 episodes the BBC
broadcast repeated during the 50 year anniversary of the beeb (IIRC
1986?)The running time for episodes 3 (Other Points Of
The Compass) and 4 (The High Price) were according to the TCM on the video
machine 49 minutes 10 seconds (give or take few seconds difference), this
is from the beginning of the opening title to the end of the closing title. I
have a few more of these original from the beeb episodes along with the closing
credits of the Clothes Show. I'll check the running times on those when I'm
feeling bored.Anyhow. From UK Drama, with all the adverts edited
out and again from opening to closing titles, Ep 3 is 46 minutes 43 seconds, Ep
4 is 47 minutes 15 seconds.Quickly looking through a sample of all the UK
Drama episodes the run times are all in this area. Something around 2 minutes
would appear to be missing from every one of them.One thing I did notice when editing and did
not check on was that the repeat episode broadcast early in the morning only had
1.5 minute advert slots instead of the usual 3-4 minute ones during the day.
(I'd recorded this because I messed up editing one of the daytime
slots and needed the first 25 minutes of it) I did not check however if the
overall running time was different, I doubt it was, as they would not bother to
do a different edit for that slot? The extra time was probably filled up with
upcoming programme information or something.Bill.—– Original Message —–
From: moonroll
To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 3:07
PM
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] the eps on UK
DramaHi,
Re not including Bloody Week in the videos, I guess
there wasn't room for all the episodes and it was decided to omit one episode
from each series and also make cuts to the others so each series would fit on
four videos. They probably picked on Bloody Week because it is (in my
opinion anyway) the weakest of the second series and, other than the
Elizabeth/Albert angle, is pretty much a stand alone story so its omission
wouldn't affect the continuing storylines.In terms of the cuts made by
UKTV Drama, if you watch the BBC video of 'Frisco Bound and compare, you'll see
that the scene with Anne & James in the cabin of the Charlotte Rhodes before
she sails is totally cut as well as the scene when the ship returns and James
walks down the gangplank and kisses Anne. I particularly noticed those two
cuts as 'Frisco Bound is one of my fav episodes and UKTV Drama ruined the
episode for me.I've only watched 2/3 episodes in their entirety so far
but I think every episode has been cut by I guess two to three minutes.
Bill, I would be interested to know how much has been cut when you get round to
checking your old tapes. When the BBC originally broadcast series one and
two in 1971 and 1972, each episode had a fifty minute timeslot with opening and
ending credits. However, this would also have included a bit of time for
BBC programme trailers so each episode in its entirety is probably approx. 48
minutes.Diana
Date: 28/07/2005
2 episode were dropped one each from series 1 and
2. I've heard suggestions that Cry of the Blackbird from 1 was a bit
controversial at the time the VHS recordings were first offered, political
correctness creeping in or some such nonsense, and that Bloody Week from 2 did
not really lose much to the thread of the story and was not up to the standard
of the rest of the production anyway. (Which is a matter of opinion – not
necessarily mine).I suspect the real reasons were more to do with the
length of VHS cassettes and perhaps some repeat fee arguments, I wonder if
anyone knows for sure?Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
gduch2001Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:42
AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] the eps on UK
DramaHi, now that its finsished I must say that I've enjoyed
watchign
although i have most of htem on video anyway. I havnt
noticed cuts -.even my partner who didn't like it much has takne to
watching and
saying that he was grwowing to enjoy it a lot...
it was
good to see the French ep which i havene't seen since i was a
child, it
was a bit "Allo Allo" in some ways but still it was very
enjoyable.
I had to giggle when elizabeth sold the potatoes to teh
Prussian captain..
surely Eliz cuold have offered him soemthing
else!I wonder
if it was dropped from the videos becuase it did show James
as a bit more
kindly and principled than he usually is and they felt
it wwas a bit out
of character.does anyone have any
thoughtsG
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Yes thanks for that, I persevered and ordered the
DVDs from the Dutch seller, I'm not the sort of person who will bid on
eBay for something like this, I always get pipped at the post at the
last minute!Now if I figured out the thing correctly (Babel
fish translation) and it doesn't get shipped to Antarctica or somewhere I shall
be the very pleased owner of series 3🙂Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
moonrollSent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:39
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] UKTV Drama
episodesHi Bill,In case you've not found the third series on
eBay:Take your pick!DI just wanted to remind everyone about the episode
guides on my site.I must get on and write some more. I thought I'd
concentrate on the last series (8). I would appreciate anyone who wants to
contribute a description of any of the other episode not yet covered,
as always credits will be given.Those of you who have websites related to the
Onedin line may want linking to mine, just tell me what is needed and I will
stick your url in my links section along with any graphics etc you might
want.ATB Bill.
Diana, Marianne,Not found it on ebay, will
have another look tonight when I have a bit of free time, found it on http://www.nl.bol.com ok but I can't figure out
how to order it – my liguistic skill in Dutch being zero. € 24,99 for the
whole series 3 seems a reasonable price though.Again when I have a little time to while away, I'll
check the running time from my old tapes against the UK Drama broadcasts (ads
removed) on a couple of episodes to see how much is cut.Thanks,Bill.
Diana,Thanks for the information.Very annoying when an episode is missed. I have
been putting 2 episodes onto one DVD which maintains the quality very
nicely. A vast improvement on my old off-air poor quality recordings made with a
worn-out VCR and better picture quality than the commercial VHS
tape. Pity about the DOG (digital overlay graphic – in this case the
UKDrama logo) at the top of the screen and the cuts made for
important news about debt management, low cost phone call schemes, and
what's-on-later messages. Overall I find them acceptable and better than buying
the commercial release on DVD with 2 episodes missing (after buying
the VHS version I begrudge forking out again for them on DVD) and quite
watchable after all the ads have been edited out.Which brings me around to the question, and I'm
sorry if someone has covered this before and I missed it, has anyone bought
series 3 on DVD and if so what is it like? Are
all the episodes on it? Again I'm sorry, but I have completely forgotten where
this was available from a search in Google failed to find it.Thanks,Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
DianaSent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:57
AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] UKTV Drama –
SeptemberThe September listings have just been published and The
Onedin Line is
on throughout the month, continuing from Wind Blows Free on
31 August.
September starts with Plain Sailing.Weekday times
are 6.00 am, 12.00 midday, and 6.00 pm
Saturday no episode
Sunday 4
Sept: 3 episodes at 9.30, 10.30, 11.30 - repeating those
broadcast during
the previous week
Sunday 11 Sept: 5 episodes starting at 7.30 - again
repeating those
broadcast the previous weekSo if you've missed any
episodes, there's another opportunity to record
them.Bill, Pound
and Pint is scheduled for Thursday 22 September & 10.30 on
Sunday 25 -
but the schedule isn't always
accurate!Diana
Thanks for that I'll keep an eye out for the
repeats. The cuts occur in all of the episodes UK Drama have
aired to a lesser or greater degree I think, so as to cram in all the
important advertising into the hour slot!Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
moonrollSent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 2:40 PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Pound and
PintHi Bill,I think it's likely that UKTV Drama are going to
show the episodes again during September so you can record it yourself then
with a bit of luck. Wind Blows Free is being shown again on 31 August
and I'm assuming they will continue with the rest of series one and two. The
September schedule should be available any day now so will let you
know.If not, I have recorded all the episodes, though
on VHS not DVD.Has anyone watched 'Frisco Bound on UKTV
Drama? I watched the episode this morning and couldn't believe the cuts
they made in the episode. They're doing a worse job than the BBC
did to the videos!By the way, I haven't had a reply to my message
to UKTV re showing the later series but I remember they were quite slow at
responding when I emailed them previously.Dianastyle="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—–I have also asked for more of the series to be
shown, so if everyone on here does the same it may make them think
again.Only takes 5 minutes.Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
DianaSent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:11 AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] UKTV
DramaBelow is a link to the contact page for UKTV. I have
left a message
asking if they intend to broadcast more series of Onedin
and will let
everyone know the response. But the more of us who
express our
interest, the more likely they will be to show series three to
eight,
so please do contact UKTV.http://www.uktv.co.uk/?uktv=standarditem.index&aID=528249
Diana
Anyone know what happened to Deryck the owner of this list?Are you there?
Bill.
—– Original Message —–
From: "Deryck" <houserules2000@yahoo.com>
To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Slow at first, but bear with us… how about a
game?: Hi and welcome to all new members, esp Marianne, whom I see has just
: joined today. Welcome Marianne!Some stuff here too:Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
Quadflieg HelgaSent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:23
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: query
re actress in OL/Nicolette RoegHi,like so many of then actors of the 50ies and
60ies, Nicolette Roeg also performed in a number of more or
less successful musicals.You can get some – very basic- information
about her underbut there is no mention of any relationship
to Nicolas!Helgastyle="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– OriginalDianaI've been editing out the adverts in episode one
and inserting the missing bits from my old vhs tapes. The difference in
picture quality is noticeable but acceptable for just the small sections that
are involved.You were right about the missing material, there is
also a short cut in Albert Frazer's dialog about Elizabeth with James on
the ship.There was approximately one and a half minutes
missing from the transmitted episode. I'll see what subsequent episode are like
when I get around to it but I suspect this will be the case on all of them to
allow the time necessary time for advertising etc that has to be squeezed into
the 1 hour slot. I intend to archive them all to DVD-r eventually.Bill.style="PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
—– Original Message —–From:
DianaSent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:11 PMSubject: [shiponedingroup] UKTV Drama –
Onedin episodesHi,
Did anyone else notice that UKTV Drama skipped
part of the proposal
scene from "The Wind Blows Free"? The episode has
Anne saying
".....
poor bedfellows, Captain Onedin", then there's an
advert break, and
the episode continues with James saying, "For richer or
poorer .....". The piece re James having "ambition enough for an
army of Napoleons" has been cut.Did any of you notice other
cuts? There was one other place which
didn't seem quite right to me,
again when there were adverts, but
I
can't recall where this
occurred.Diana
