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—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 4:31
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayBill, I have received your invite, however, I noticed then that
groups.io does not accept any new transfer
requests (https://groups.io/yahootransfer)...
So we have indeed run out of time 🙁That said, I have found this tool: https://github.com/IgnoredAmbience/yahoo-group-archiver.
I have managed to download all content (all conversations, files and photos),
except the member list. I could set up a forum on my server (which I mentioned
earlier) and import this data into it, just as groups.io could have done.However, it would be nice to have member list as well (though, of course,
people would be able to subscribe once the forum is up). I think the
reason for the tool failing to download it is that my user account has no
access to it.Bill, could you make me an administrator or some other kind of user with
a higher access level, so that I could try downloading the member list?Thanks,Istvánstyle="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
Perhaps it failed, because I am already in the group with
that email address. Could you try another one, perhaps my other address: ivaradi@varadiistvan.hu?On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:20 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
I
can use the invite form in mamnagement which wen using your address
gives:István Váradi ivaradi@gmail.com — Invalid Emailstyle="MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019
1:47 PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayHi Bill,could you check if you can send an invite
from the group to an email address?If so, it seems to me that
the groups.io transfer can
still work. You need to create a new group there, and upgrade it to
premium for one year. It costs $220 when paid in advance for the full
year, or $20/month. I am willing to do this including paying for it (and
then later we can organize some sharing of the cost, but let's not try
to do it now as time is scarce), but only if you can send an invite, as
otherwise it will not work. So, please check if you can send an
invite.On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup]
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:style="MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
I was unable to get into the site as it
just came up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one
as they sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used
about 9 years ago and fortunately on it were the login details of
another account I'd made to guard against being locked out this and
other Yahoo groups.I got to the group panel and have
downloaded all the files.So what now?Bill.style="MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019
9:14 PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup]
Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out.
CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I
saved, I hope you can use them. I said
>They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they are html format, the way they
were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed
in readable format, at least when given to Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other mail
boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird
it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then
I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let
me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for
offering the messages, and I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me, including the headers. That way I
might be able to
> setup some website where the
messages would be displayed in
> chronological
order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of
this message have been removed]
Thanks Dino.I also removed sgflikchik from the
group.style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 4:34
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going Awaysgflikchik,You signed up by asking to
join this Group. No one can just remove you because you're asking. If you want
to leave you've got to do it yourself. Log into the Group on the Yahoo! Group
site for the shiponedingroup (here is the direct link for that if you need
it: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/shiponedingroup/info).Once you're signed in
look for the pull-down menu for "Membership v" (the v is the down arrowhead
indicating the pull-down menu) which is on the right side of the page just
below the Group's banner. Note: the Group's banner at the moment is just a
large grey rectangle. (You'll see a small black circle with a white ? in it
next to the "Membership v" link.) Click on that Membership menu and select the
"Edit Membership" link at the bottom.Once you're
in the Edit Membership area, look down the page for the "Leave Group" section,
which is the last section on that page. Then just click on the button that
says "Leave Group" and you can go on your merry way.Dino.—–Original
Message—–
From: sgflikchik@aol.com [shiponedingroup]
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: shiponedingroup
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2019 9:23
am
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Awaysomeone
please please get me out of the groupmy email is : sgflikchik@aol.com
—–Original
Message—–
From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
To:
shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Fri, Dec 6, 2019 9:20 am
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going Away
I can use the invite form
in mamnagement which wen using your address gives:István Váradi ivaradi@gmail.com — Invalid Emailstyle="MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–From: István Váradi
ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup]Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 1:47
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayHi Bill,
could you check if you
can send an invite from the group to an email address?
If so, it seems to me that the groups.io transfer
can still work. You need to create a new group there, and upgrade it to
premium for one year. It costs $220 when paid in advance for the full year,
or $20/month. I am willing to do this including paying for it (and then
later we can organize some sharing of the cost, but let's not try to do it
now as time is scarce), but only if you can send an invite, as otherwise it
will not work. So, please check if you can send an invite.On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM
'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:style="MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
I was unable to get into the site as it just
came up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one as
they sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9
years ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account
I'd made to guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo
groups.I got to the group panel and have downloaded
all the files.So what now?Bill.style="MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019
9:14 PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I
saved, I hope you can use them. I said
>They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they are html format, the way they were
distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in
readable format, at least when given to Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other mail boxes
while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird it sees the
new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I see the
messages in chrono order with the html
correctly
rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On
11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the
messages, and I would be grateful if you could
> send
them to me, including the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup some website where the messages would be displayed
in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the
topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I
could import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I can use the invite form in mamnagement
which wen using your address gives:István Váradi ivaradi@gmail.com — Invalid Emailstyle="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 1:47
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayHi Bill,could you check if you can send an invite from
the group to an email address?If so, it seems to me that the groups.io transfer can still work. You need to
create a new group there, and upgrade it to premium for one year. It costs
$220 when paid in advance for the full year, or $20/month. I am willing to do
this including paying for it (and then later we can organize some sharing of
the cost, but let's not try to do it now as time is scarce), but only if you
can send an invite, as otherwise it will not work. So, please check if you can
send an invite.On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
I was unable to get into the site as it just
came up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one as
they sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9
years ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account
I'd made to guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo
groups.I got to the group panel and have downloaded
all the files.So what now?Bill.style="MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:14
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved,
I hope you can use them. I said
>They're
in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but
they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among
other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open
Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then
I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly
rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14
PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and
I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me,
including the headers. That way I might be able to
>
setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic
structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could
import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I was unable to get into the site as it just came
up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one as they
sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9 years
ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account I'd made to
guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo groups.I got to the group panel and have downloaded all
the files.So what now?Bill.style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:14
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup]
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved, I
hope you can use them. I said
>They're in
plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they
are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other
mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird it
sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I see the
messages in chrono order with the html
correctly rendered. I
hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee
Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and I
would be grateful if you could
> send them to me, including
the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup some
website where the messages would be displayed in
>
chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this
message have been removed]
Dino,I don't seem to have my login details for the
group, these vanished some time ago with an old broken computer.This email still works though
(obviously).I have tried the recovery and it does not work
either.So I'm unable to get to the control panel for the
group. So if that is needed I don't seem to be able to do anything.style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:22
AMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayBill, I'm a member of a couple of other Yahoo Groups that have just
migrated to Groups.io. One thing I did hear was that Groups.io was charging a
$220 (US) migration fee. In all of the Groups that migrated, the owner asked
for members to donate what they could to help with that cost. Members donated
anywhere between $5 and $50 via PayPal to the owners with the owners posting daily updates on the
amount raised until the $220 was reached. Then the
owners used those funds to pay Groups.io.I've just sent those Groups' owners an
email asking them what they did to get the powers that be at Groups.io to
migrate them over. I'll pass on anything they tell me ASAP.Dino.—–Original
Message—–
From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup]
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: shiponedingroup
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 4:21
pm
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayOK,what is needed?style="MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–From: István Váradi
ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup]To: Chris J BradySent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 6:52
AMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayMoving the group to IO would require the administrator to
invite a certain e-mail address. However, I could not contact the
administrator. But we still have some time till Deember 14, so perhaps there
is still hope that the administrator steps forward and the moving can be
completed..Istvánstyle="MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
Who not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I
saved, I hope you can use them. I said
>They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they are html format, the way they were
distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable
format, at least when given to Thunderbird
email. When I
put the file "onedin" in among other mail boxes while
Tbird
is closed, next time I open Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it… Then I see the messages in chrono order with
the html
correctly rendered. I hope this works for you.
Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and
I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me,
including the headers. That way I might be able to
>
setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic
structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could
import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
OK,what is needed?style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–To: Chris J BradySent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 6:52
AMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayMoving the group to IO would require the administrator to invite
a certain e-mail address. However, I could not contact the administrator. But
we still have some time till Deember 14, so perhaps there is still hope that
the administrator steps forward and the moving can be completed..IstvánOn Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:14 PM Chris J Brady
<chrisjbrady@yahoo.com> wrote:style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;">
Who not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved, I
hope you can use them. I said
>They're in
plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they
are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among
other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open
Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I
see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly
rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM,
ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and I
would be grateful if you could
> send them to me,
including the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup
some website where the messages would be displayed in
>
chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this
message have been removed]
I long since lost the login details to the group
when my PC died, but searching my emails stored on an old hdd I've found I
can reply to messages to the group.In view Yahoo is closing the groups down,
I have created a forum at http://onedingroup.freeforums.net.I do not know if it will have any use to Onedin
fans but we can see how it goes, so if you fancy joining and seeing if you will
like and participate in it please go there and sign up.Bill.style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 3:24
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayI have those files, Lee, and thank you for making them available! (I
hope I posted a thank you when you let us know where to find them. If not,
apologies for being inexcusably late.)I found them fascinating as I never got to see them before
you made them available for us. The station in my area that aired 'The Onedin
Line' was a syndicated commercial station, and the 45-50-minute TOL episodes
ran for a full hour once that station inserted their adverts, so there was
never any room for those "fillers".Dino.
—–Original
Message—–
From: Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup]
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: shiponedingroup
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2019 6:53
am
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away> (BTW I have already downloaded the photos and the files to my
computer,
> so if no other solution is found, I will be able
to make them available
> from my server. The messages will be
lost, however, unless they copied
> one by one with copy and
paste, which seems to be a rather dull job :))
>
> István
Thanks István !
I still have about 100 messages (including all 44 of
mine) which I could
send you. They're in plaintext (including
the mail headers) which makes
it easy (one copy operation) to
put them into a new inbox in my
Thunderbird email reader. I can
supply instructions. Maybe you'd prefer
one text file without
the headers.
A dozen+ of my messages referred to
10 minute videos ("The Running
Tide") I posted on my public
onedrive site. They're 30-50 megabytes
each, still available to
download from
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DF9A1A8355E5C330%21172&cid=DF9A1A8355E5C330
I did not post them to shiponedingroup files because
they were not
actually part of The Onedin Line, they were
fillers added by my local
PBS station after the broadcast of
each TOL in the first season. They're
seafaring documentaries
on a subject related to the TOL episode. I don't
have the
copyright to them but I have never received a complaint from
PBS and I couldn't find them online or elsewhere. If you're setting
up a
new group or compiling TOL files you (or TOL fans) are
welcome to copy them…
Lee Bonnifield
So very interesting!And you have provided just about the only
conformation about what Abraham had said in the radio interview about the story
line. It is just the sort of background detail that is easily lost.It ought to be recorded and written down without
legal implications if possible.Bill.style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:48
PMSubject: [shiponedingroup] Cyril
AbrahamI have to be a little careful
here (not everyone is dead yet!),
but I can give some insight into the show's relationship with Cyril Abraham in
its last two series. The fact is that he was, as a matter of policy,
ruthlessly kept out of it. Mr Abraham did indeed have a plan for the story
going well into the twentieth century; to say the least of it, this plan was
not to the taste of Mervyn Haisman, the show's script editor. Mr Abraham saw
the show as a slowly unfurling saga of a family and the sea – almost a
Dickensian novel – but Mervyn, eye always to the ratings, thought more in
terms of a 1970s soap opera in fancy dress. Under Mervyn, every episode had to
have an "exciting" sea story and something going even more wrong with the
family; there were times when he seemed to be talking about some sort of
ocean-going Wacky Races based at the Crossroads Motel.The fact is that Mervyn
Haisman and Cyril Abraham detested each other to the edge of mania. Geraint
Morris, the producer, got caught in the middle. Eventually, Mr Abraham's
numerous phone calls were simply ignored. Geraint actually changed his home
phone number to avoid him; Mr Abraham had no contractual relationship with the
show by then, but would call the producer after every transmission to read the
riot act. He had a lot to talk about. He was probably the first person to
raise the annoying question of why, in a show set in Liverpool in the
Victorian period, we never, ever heard a single Scouse accent, even from the
servants. Mervyn would jump on any actor who even tried it, citing American
sales as the reason. Mr Abraham would also pick merciless holes in the plots,
which under Mervyn developed from the fantastical to the near-surreal; we were
all, director very much included, very glad that he did not live to see the
last episode, which made no sense at all.Here's where I have to be
careful. Much of the Abraham master plan was based around characters who, for
the worst of practical reasons, simply couldn't be developed. Let's just say
that some of the actors were better than others. Drink was an increasingly
visible issue in one case.In the end, the show's
relationship with Cyril Abraham was so bad that we were genuinely surprised
that Geraint asked Continuity to run an end-of-credits tribute to him when he
died. Then they got his name wrong.
Yes please, all interesting
stuff.I did attempt to interest some
cast members in this list years ago, only Mike Billington actually responded,
which was a shame. I think an awful lot of the background to the Onedin Line
could have been recorded here.I was also going to move the list
to the more used forum format, which is easier to read than a message list
like this, but activity declined and I think the opportunity was missed.I was always fascinated by a
radio interview Cyril Abraham once gave where he talked about the story being
formed right up to the (then) present days (the late '70s).Nobody else I have come across
seems to have heard of it.Bill.
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—– Original Message —–Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 3:49
AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] The Music
Adviser's TaleA couple of kind people wrote
to ask me how I got involved in The Onedin Line; I thought I might share it
with everyone, as it maybe gives some idea of the fairly random way things
worked in television in those days (not that I think it has changed much).
More crudely put, how did I get the job?The answer is by a sort of
anti-nepotism. My predecessor in the job was Grant Hossack, whose first love
was the theatre, and he simply wanted to go back there – so there was a
vacancy. My (first) wife's cousin was an actress called April Walker, probably
best known to history as Jon Pertwee's unfortunate mistress and an occasional
face on Benny Hill and Fawlty Towers. However, at one stage April was the wife
of Anthony Isaac, the first Music Adviser on Onedin. She and Tony went through
a fairly bad divorce in 1977. Anyway, I met Tony Isaac at some function or
other; my fairly distant relationship with his first wife was no sort of
advantage, and it was a fairly frosty conversation. When Grant Hossack left,
the first thing the producer did was offer it back to Tony Isaac, who
accepted. However, he had no sooner done this than he was offered a contract
writing the full score for a new show that I had better not name. There was a
lot of money involved, so he accepted and phoned Geraint Morris back to return
the Onedin contract. Geraint took this very badly, but somewhere during the
blazing row that followed Geraint asked Tony if he could think of anyone else
to do it – and for some reason that I will never understand, Tony named me. A
couple of phone calls and an interview later, and I was in. That was it.The awful footnote to all this
is that Tony's new show was cancelled weeks before production (sound
familiar?) just as the new Onedin started, leaving him high and dry. He had
just bought a new house on the strength of the new contract and cleared his
calendar for nearly half a year. Suddenly left with a huge mortgage that he
couldn't pay and a mountain of bills that should have been taken care of by
the new show, Tony hanged himself.When I've a minute, I'll share
the sad story of the death of Gerald (Gerry) Blake, which shattered all of us
who knew and loved him.Thank you all for your
interest,Bill SM
Bill,Yes many are not with us anymore.
One
is Mike Billington, who was actually a member on here, (though under a
pseudonym which I can't now remember) and he used to read the comments.
I don't think he actually ever posted though. I had
a few private exchanges with him, which was mostly about the Isle of Man where
he lived.He said his favourite episode was Ice and Fire, at
the time no commercial copy was available and I sent the episode to him on a
disc made from some VHS off-air recordings I had. I don't know if he ever saw it
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—– Original Message —–Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 3:09
AMSubject: [shiponedingroup] Re: Christian
Radich filmAnd thank you, Mr Brady – love you, too.I actually own the official
DVD release, but it was very poorly distributed. Go to Amazon and see the mess
for yourselves. I was simply suggesting a quick way for members of the group
to see the film; a true fan would then make the effort to get the official
version, as I did.For what it's worth, I often
see my own stuff – radio shows, TV, interviews, everything – on Youtube,
Usenet and elsewhere. Where I feel my rights are being directly infringed for
gain, I take appropriate action. I do, however, have the imagination and the
charity to distinguish between fan activity and piracy. I have also learned
some manners.For my more measured friends:
I'm still in contact with a few people from my Onedin friends. Alas, precious
few of us are still alive. Peter, Howard and so many others are gone. On the
production side, Geraint Morris passed away some time back, as did my friends
Pennant Roberts and – a very special friend – Gerry Blake. Geraint and I fell
out very badly indeed on a later project (King's Royal). I wonder how many of
you on the group know that a whole new series was developed for Jessica Benton
after Onedin – The Heywood Files, about an early lady photographer. It got to
a very late stage of development, with (for example) me written in as music
director and all the episode writers chosen and told to get started. Then,
absolutely out of nowhere, Series and Serials killed it, less than a month
before production was to start. A horrible experience all round.BSM
Quite agree, he is already on moderation and
cannot post, unless some apology is forthcoming he will be banned and
deleted.I'm afraid there was nothing we could do to prevent
the message going out via email, apologies to any who were
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—– Original Message —–Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 9:23
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Christian
Radich filmOkay, I'm usually quiet about things like this,
but calling fellow members names (in the vulgar slang) is uncalled for,
especially when one of those members was the Music Advisor to the Series we
love so much! Did you ever consider the fact that neither of those members
might not have known about the restored film, or that it was available on DVD?
Did it occur to you to post the question to them via the Group? Or did you
just have this need to fling vulgar insults and accusations at members (which
I'm sure must be a violation of the Group's rules)? Mr. Brady, you may be
right, but the way you've gone about it is so very wrong.Moderators, Group Owner, please take
some action on this.Dino.
Graham Fleet, is authoring a review blog examining
each episode of the Onedin Line. Episode reviews are updated
weekly.If you are interested, the URL is:Looks interstingBill.More problems with the site. Seems like someone
does not like it enough to once again hack into it and alter the content in a
most childish manner.So I have removed it, reset the password and intend
to leave it for a while untill the misfit moves on to something else, like
exiting puberty perhaps.In the meantime if anyone wants a copy of the site
to run on their own PC away from the world of internet idiots let me know and
I'll send the key for the download (small file only about
6MB).Bill.Well timed!I just got the OK from the nerds, everything should
be ok. So I restored the files for The Onedin Line. I have tested it – it
seems to work – any problems anyone has please let me know.The usual link http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm will go
through a redirect for a while, if there is any problem then:http://www.sound-research.co.uk/ will
find the pages. I think the backup was all up to date so everything should be
there.Sorry to hear you have not been too well I hoped
managed to watch some Onedin Line to take your mind off it. Best wishes for a
full and speedy recovery.Bill.style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir="ltr">
—– Original Message —–From:
LambuLambu@aol.comSent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:56
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Site
downHappy New Year to you, too, Bill! (And to
everyone else as well!) I'd have replied sooner, but I was off line as well
for a few days – not the computer: me! My back injury was acting up again, and
I got hit with a bad vertigo episode. So, I was flat on my back (or curled up
in a ball) for several days waiting for the aches and dizzies to go away.
Things are better now and I'm at least back on my feet for short
hops.Sorry to hear about your site, Bill.
I wish there was a way to send a massive "kill-the-computer" virus to the
hacker so he would get fried (and I'd love to fry him; I abhor hackers!).
Another group I belong to for an early 1970s show ('Search' in the US, 'Search
Control' in the UK and I think a few other places) had their site hijacked and
held for ransom a few years ago. Rather than paying the $3k USD fee to have
the site released, the guy who built the site just built another site (on
arthost.com) and loaded all of the things that were thankfully backed up onto
the new site. So far <knocking on wood> there have been no more
problems.Hopefully you'll get things sorted
out soon and we'll have smooth sailing once again!Dino.
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Message—–
From: Bill <william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com>
To:
shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 6,
2014 8:07 am
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Site downA belated seasons greetings to all of you.
Happy New Year!Just a quick note for anyone who might try to
access the Onedin Line section of my website.Due to a hacker gaining control of my
web servers, I have l deleted all of the sites. Much of the content had
been altered so this was the safest opition.There is a backup stored in the cloud so it will
return, but it will remain off-line until any issues with security are
identified and corrected.Bill.I've looked at these. Very good quality and small files so easy to download.
I use the free VLC player for these (
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html )Paul Foster played by Michael Billington is on disc 2 episode 4, and is in
many of the other episodes as one of the main characters.Quite enjoying a bit of 'vintage' sci-fi not seen these for years.
Bill.
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From: "samwebster2000" <samwebster2000@yahoo.com>
To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:56 PM
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: Michael Billington in The Prisoner> The UFO series is being uploaded to Rareshare.me.
>
> Michael Billington appeared in these before he was in Onedin line I think.
>
> Anyway nice to see him in another role, he is introduced in ep 04.
>
> S
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> — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "samwebster2000"
> <samwebster2000@…> wrote:
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>> If you are into torrents UFO series has been promised as a torrent upload
>> on rareshare.me for August in the more compact high quality MP4 format.
>>
>>
>> — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "LambuLambu@" <LambuLambu@>
>> wrote:
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>> > If you'd like to see a shaven Michael Billington in a larger role, then
>> > 'UFO' is a good series. He played Colonel Paul Foster. The series is
>> > available on Netflix, but sadly not for streaming; you have to select
>> > the DVDs.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dino.
>> >
>> >
>> > —–Original Message—–
>> > From: Lee Bonnifield <lee78@>
>> > To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 10:40 pm
>> > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Michael Billington in The Prisoner
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>> > That's our Michael Billington as "Woodland Man No. 2" in episode 10**
>> > "A Change of Mind" (1967) of "The Prisoner"?
>> >
>> > I didn't recognize him (shaven) but I see the end credits.
>> >
>> > small role as thug who attempts to bully No. 6 for being unmutual
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>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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