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  • in reply to: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away #1612
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    sgflikchik,


    You signed up by asking to join this Group. No one can just remove you because you're asking. If you want to leave you've got to do it yourself. Log into the Group on the Yahoo! Group site for the shiponedingroup (here is the direct link for that if you need it: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/shiponedingroup/info).

    Once you're signed in look for the pull-down menu for "Membership v" (the v is the down arrowhead indicating the pull-down menu) which is on the right side of the page just below the Group's banner. Note: the Group's banner at the moment is just a large grey rectangle. (You'll see a small black circle with a white ? in it next to the "Membership v" link.) Click on that Membership menu and select the "Edit Membership" link at the bottom.

    Once you're in the Edit Membership area, look down the page for the "Leave Group" section, which is the last section on that page. Then just click on the button that says "Leave Group" and you can go on your merry way.

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: sgflikchik@aol.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2019 9:23 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    someone please please get me out of the group

    my email is : sgflikchik@aol.com




    —–Original Message—–

    From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>

    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>

    Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2019 9:20 am

    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away


     

    

    I can use the invite form in mamnagement
    which wen using your address gives:
     
    István Váradi ivaradi@gmail.com — Invalid Email

    —– Original Message —–
    From:
    István Váradi
    ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup]
    Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 1:47
    PM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
    Groups Are Going Away

    Hi Bill,

    could you check if you can send an invite from
    the group to an email address?

    If so, it seems to me that the groups.io transfer can still work. You need to
    create a new group there, and upgrade it to premium for one year. It costs
    $220 when paid in advance for the full year, or $20/month. I am willing to do
    this including paying for it (and then later we can organize some sharing of
    the cost, but let's not try to do it now as time is scarce), but only if you
    can send an invite, as otherwise it will not work. So, please check if you can
    send an invite.


    On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com
    [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    wrote:

     

    
    I was unable to get into the site as it just
    came up 'email address not recognized'.
     
    Interesting because this is the same one as
    they sent the message on!
     
    Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9
    years ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account
    I'd made to guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo
    groups.
     
    I got to the group panel and have downloaded
    all the files.
     
    So what now?
     
    Bill.
     
     
    —– Original Message —–
    From:
    Chris
    J Brady
    chrisjbrady@yahoo.com [shiponedingroup]
    Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:14
    PM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
    Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

    Who not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJB
    On Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
    [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     

    Hi István,

    Here are the messages I saved,
    I hope you can use them. I said

    >They're
    in plaintext (including the mail headers)

    but
    they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
    them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
    Thunderbird
    email. When I put the file "onedin" in among
    other mail boxes while
    Tbird is closed, next time I open
    Tbird it sees the new file and builds
    indexes for it. Then
    I see the messages in chrono order with the html
    correctly
    rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.

    Lee Bonnifield

    On 11/28/19 2:14
    PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
    [shiponedingroup] wrote:
    > Hi Lee,
    >
    >
    > thanks for offering the messages, and
    I would be grateful if you could
    > send them to me,
    including the headers. That way I might be able to
    >
    setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
    > chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic
    structure. Or
    > perhaps a forum into which I could
    import them.
    >
    > István
    >
    >

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    in reply to: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away #1600
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Hey, Bill,


    Sorry to hear about the computer problems with the loss of login details. If you've got a moderator or two that have been helping you with the ShipOnedinGroup, they might have enough access to the Group to get the transfer done. So far I've only got one reply from the other Group owners I've asked, but here's what he had to say:

    "I just created an account.  I did not do their formal transfer or pay anything.


    One of my moderators and I both backed up the Yahoo account and he mostly added the files to IO.  He may have done the messages as well, but I have them and keep forgetting to look or add them myself.

    As far as the membership goes, people have to go there and join if Yahoo completely tanks.

    Those are the only things I can tell you."
    So it looks like they didn't do much more than start the Groups.io account, and rather than pay for the powers at IO to do the transfer, they transferred the files themselves, and now just have to upload the messages. As for members creating their accounts, it was actually easier than it was creating my Yahoo account. Once the Groups.io account is created, members just have to send the usual request to the Group they want to join (so that much is pretty well the same as with Yahoo). Also, with Groups.io the first message any new member sends is moderated, so the Group owner and moderators will have to approve it. After the first message, it's posting as usual with no moderation… unless the Group owner or a moderator deletes the message for some reason; again the same as with Yahoo.

    I'm still waiting on the others I've asked about the migration to reply. They have busy lives with work, so it might take a day or so, though I did mention the urgency of the 14 December deadline. As soon as I hear more I'll let you know.

    I hope some of this was helpful.

    All the best,
    Dino.


    —–Original Message—–
    From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2019 6:08 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    

    Dino,
     
    I don't seem to have my login details for the
    group, these vanished some time ago with an old broken computer.
     
    This email still works though
    (obviously).
     
    I have tried the recovery and it does not work
    either.
     
    So I'm unable to get to the control panel for the
    group. So if that is needed I don't seem to be able to do anything.

    —– Original Message —–
    Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:22
    AM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
    Groups Are Going Away

    Bill, I'm a member of a couple of other Yahoo Groups that have just
    migrated to Groups.io. One thing I did hear was that Groups.io was charging a
    $220 (US) migration fee. In all of the Groups that migrated, the owner asked
    for members to donate what they could to help with that cost. Members donated
    anywhere between $5 and $50 via PayPal to the owners
     with the owners posting daily updates on the
    amount raised
     until the $220 was reached. Then the
    owners used those funds to pay Groups.io.


    I've just sent those Groups' owners an
    email asking them what they did to get the powers that be at Groups.io to
    migrate them over. I'll pass on anything they tell me ASAP.

    Dino.


    —–Original
    Message—–
    From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup]
    <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup
    <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 4:21
    pm
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    
    OK,
     
    what is needed?
     
     
    —– Original Message —–
    From: István Váradi
    ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup]
    Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 6:52
    AM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
    Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

    Moving the group to IO would require the administrator to
    invite a certain e-mail address. However, I could not contact the
    administrator. But we still have some time till Deember 14, so perhaps there
    is still hope that the administrator steps forward and the moving can be
    completed..


    István


    On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:14 PM
    Chris J Brady <chrisjbrady@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    Who not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJB
    On Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
    [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    wrote:


     

    Hi István,

    Here are the messages I
    saved, I hope you can use them. I said

    >They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)

    but they are html format, the way they were
    distributed. The headers let
    them be displayed in readable
    format, at least when given to Thunderbird
    email. When I
    put the file "onedin" in among other mail boxes while
    Tbird
    is closed, next time I open Tbird it sees the new file and builds
    indexes for it… Then I see the messages in chrono order with
    the html
    correctly rendered. I hope this works for you.
    Please let me know.

    Lee Bonnifield

    On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
    [shiponedingroup] wrote:
    > Hi Lee,
    >
    >
    > thanks for offering the messages, and
    I would be grateful if you could
    > send them to me,
    including the headers. That way I might be able to
    >
    setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
    > chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic
    structure. Or
    > perhaps a forum into which I could
    import them.
    >
    > István
    >
    >

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    in reply to: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away #1597
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Bill, I'm a member of a couple of other Yahoo Groups that have just migrated to Groups.io. One thing I did hear was that Groups.io was charging a $220 (US) migration fee. In all of the Groups that migrated, the owner asked for members to donate what they could to help with that cost. Members donated anywhere between $5 and $50 via PayPal to the owners with the owners posting daily updates on the amount raised until the $220 was reached. Then the owners used those funds to pay Groups.io.


    I've just sent those Groups' owners an email asking them what they did to get the powers that be at Groups.io to migrate them over. I'll pass on anything they tell me ASAP.

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 4:21 pm
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    

    OK,
     
    what is needed?
     
     

    —– Original Message —–
    From:
    István Váradi
    ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup]
    Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 6:52
    AM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
    Groups Are Going Away

    Moving the group to IO would require the administrator to invite
    a certain e-mail address. However, I could not contact the administrator. But
    we still have some time till Deember 14, so perhaps there is still hope that
    the administrator steps forward and the moving can be completed..


    István


    On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:14 PM Chris J Brady
    <chrisjbrady@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Who not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJB
    On Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
    [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     

    Hi István,

    Here are the messages I saved, I
    hope you can use them. I said

    >They're in
    plaintext (including the mail headers)

    but they
    are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
    them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
    Thunderbird
    email. When I put the file "onedin" in among
    other mail boxes while
    Tbird is closed, next time I open
    Tbird it sees the new file and builds
    indexes for it.. Then I
    see the messages in chrono order with the html
    correctly
    rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.

    Lee Bonnifield

    On 11/28/19 2:14 PM,
    ivaradi@gmail.com
    [shiponedingroup] wrote:
    > Hi Lee,
    >
    >
    > thanks for offering the messages, and I
    would be grateful if you could
    > send them to me,
    including the headers. That way I might be able to
    > setup
    some website where the messages would be displayed in
    >
    chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
    > perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
    >
    > István
    >
    >

    [Non-text portions of this
    message have been removed]

    in reply to: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away #1591
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Okay. I just mentioned something like this. (Story of my life… always one step behind.) I'm willing to give it a go. I've just signed up, Bill.


    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Fri, Oct 25, 2019 10:19 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    

    I long since lost the login details to the group
    when my PC died, but searching my emails stored on an old hdd I've found I
    can reply to messages to the group.
     
    In view Yahoo is closing the groups down,
    I have created a forum at http://onedingroup.freeforums.net.
     
    I do not know if it will have any use to Onedin
    fans but we can see how it goes, so if you fancy joining and seeing if you will
    like and participate in it please go there and sign up.
     
    Bill.

    —– Original Message —–
    Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 3:24
    PM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
    Groups Are Going Away

    I have those files, Lee, and thank you for making them available! (I
    hope I posted a thank you when you let us know where to find them. If not,
    apologies for being inexcusably late.)


    I found them fascinating as I never got to see them before
    you made them available for us. The station in my area that aired 'The Onedin
    Line' was a syndicated commercial station, and the 45-50-minute TOL episodes
    ran for a full hour once that station inserted their adverts, so there was
    never any room for those "fillers".

    Dino.


    —–Original
    Message—–
    From: Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup]
    <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup
    <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2019 6:53
    am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    > (BTW I have already downloaded the photos and the files to my
    computer,
    > so if no other solution is found, I will be able
    to make them available
    > from my server. The messages will be
    lost, however, unless they copied
    > one by one with copy and
    paste, which seems to be a rather dull job :))
    >
    > István

    Thanks István !

    I still have about 100 messages (including all 44 of
    mine) which I could
    send you. They're in plaintext (including
    the mail headers) which makes
    it easy (one copy operation) to
    put them into a new inbox in my
    Thunderbird email reader. I can
    supply instructions. Maybe you'd prefer
    one text file without
    the headers.

    A dozen+ of my messages referred to
    10 minute videos ("The Running
    Tide") I posted on my public
    onedrive site. They're 30-50 megabytes
    each, still available to
    download from

    https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DF9A1A8355E5C330%21172&cid=DF9A1A8355E5C330

    I did not post them to shiponedingroup files because
    they were not
    actually part of The Onedin Line, they were
    fillers added by my local
    PBS station after the broadcast of
    each TOL in the first season. They're
    seafaring documentaries
    on a subject related to the TOL episode. I don't
    have the
    copyright to them but I have never received a complaint from
    PBS and I couldn't find them online or elsewhere. If you're setting
    up a
    new group or compiling TOL files you (or TOL fans) are
    welcome to copy them…

    Lee Bonnifield

    in reply to: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away #1589
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    I have those files, Lee, and thank you for making them available! (I hope I posted a thank you when you let us know where to find them. If not, apologies for being inexcusably late.)


    I found them fascinating as I never got to see them before you made them available for us. The station in my area that aired 'The Onedin Line' was a syndicated commercial station, and the 45-50-minute TOL episodes ran for a full hour once that station inserted their adverts, so there was never any room for those "fillers".

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2019 6:53 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo Groups Are Going Away

     

    > (BTW I have already downloaded the photos and the files to my computer,

    > so if no other solution is found, I will be able to make them available

    > from my server. The messages will be lost, however, unless they copied

    > one by one with copy and paste, which seems to be a rather dull job :))

    >

    > István



    Thanks István !



    I still have about 100 messages (including all 44 of mine) which I could

    send you. They're in plaintext (including the mail headers) which makes

    it easy (one copy operation) to put them into a new inbox in my

    Thunderbird email reader. I can supply instructions. Maybe you'd prefer

    one text file without the headers.



    A dozen+ of my messages referred to 10 minute videos ("The Running

    Tide") I posted on my public onedrive site. They're 30-50 megabytes

    each, still available to download from



    https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DF9A1A8355E5C330%21172&cid=DF9A1A8355E5C330



    I did not post them to shiponedingroup files because they were not

    actually part of The Onedin Line, they were fillers added by my local

    PBS station after the broadcast of each TOL in the first season. They're

    seafaring documentaries on a subject related to the TOL episode. I don't

    have the copyright to them but I have never received a complaint from

    PBS and I couldn't find them online or elsewhere. If you're setting up a

    new group or compiling TOL files you (or TOL fans) are welcome to copy them..



    Lee Bonnifield


    in reply to: Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect #1585
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Yeah… same here. Jean was replying to my post. So there is a "Dino" among you!  😉

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: David etique@pacbell.net [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 1:41 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect

     

    Dear Jean. So good to hear from you. But my name is David. I have been an Onedin lines fan for many years. Hope to hear from you again. 

    All the best

    D. Lawrence Olivier


    From: "'Jean Drew' jeandrew@xtra.co.nz [shiponedingroup]" <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:00 PM
    Subject: RE: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect

     

    Hi Dino



    It was wonderful to see an email from an Onedin Line fan after all this time. I went straight to Google to listen to the music again and discovered, to my delight, several episodes. So I watched one. “Salvage”, which included Michael Billington in the cast. I think l’ve just planned my weekend. LOL



    Best wishes to one and all



    Jean



    From: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com]

    Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 7:14 a.m.

    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com

    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect



    Greetings, All 'Onedin Line' Fans,



    I know this Group has been quiet for a long time, but I was wondering if Linda Huthmaker is still connected. I just tried to send an e-mail and it was kicked back.



    So, Linda, if you're still out there, and you receive this, please e-mail me. I've been out of action for a long time, but I'm starting to get back on my feet again (so to speak).



    Also, it would be nice to see some discussions of 'The Onedin Line' start up again. I miss those.



    All the best,



    Dino.



    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


    in reply to: Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect #1584
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    David, (or do you go by Lawrence?)

    It might not have been a typo since I'm the Dino that started the connecting topic.
    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: David etique@pacbell.net [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 1:38 am
    Subject: Re: RE: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect

     

    Dear Pat,
                  Don't know if its a typo but my name is David. I have been an Onedin fan for many years. I am thrilled to re-connect with others.

    All the best

    D. Lawrence Olivier


    From: "'Pat Kitchener' patk100@gmx.co.uk [shiponedingroup]" <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:31 PM
    Subject: Re: RE: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect

     

    About time the series was featured on UK TV again



    Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

    On 24/08/2017, 22:00 "'Jean Drew' jeandrew@xtra.co.nz [shiponedingroup]" <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

     

    Hi Dino



    It was wonderful to see an email from an Onedin Line fan after all this time. I went straight to Google to listen to the music again and discovered, to my delight, several episodes. So I watched one. “Salvage”, which included Michael Billington in the cast. I think l’ve just planned my weekend. LOL



    Best wishes to one and all



    Jean



    From: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com]

    Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 7:14 a.m.

    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com

    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect



    Greetings, All 'Onedin Line' Fans,



    I know this Group has been quiet for a long time, but I was wondering if Linda Huthmaker is still connected. I just tried to send an e-mail and it was kicked back.



    So, Linda, if you're still out there, and you receive this, please e-mail me. I've been out of action for a long time, but I'm starting to get back on my feet again (so to speak).



    Also, it would be nice to see some discussions of 'The Onedin Line' start up again. I miss those.



    All the best,



    Dino.



    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


    in reply to: Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect #1583
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Hey, Jean,


    The Group has been really quiet for the longest time, so I was hoping that someone was still out there, besides me. The episodes on Google (or YouTube) are few, but it is nice to see them. Some years ago before the FBI seized the megaupload site, they had almost every 'Onedin Line' episode available in AVI format. There was another such site (which I can't remember) that had episodes, also in AVI format, that weren't on megaupload. Between those two sites and some help from friends in the UK, I managed to get the entire series. Granted I can only watch it on my computer, but it's better than not watching it at all!

    Michael Billington was a really nice person. Though I never met him in person, I did contact his web site back in early 2000, asking if anyone had info about the ship Anne Onedin/Scotch Lass (portrayed by a redressed Charlotte Rhodes with a fake funnel). I thought I would just get a standard fan reply, but it came from "Mike" (as he said to call him) himself. It was my e-mail address that intrigued him. At the time I was active duty in the US Coast Guard, so my e-mail address ended with .uscg.mil, and he wondered if the "usc" was something in the UK (a university, I think: can't quite remember since it was 17 years ago). So I explained what it actually meant, and we started pen-palling across the pond. He's the one that let me know how they redressed the Charlotte Rhodes to play the Anne Onedin – or Scotch Lass – depending on which episodes you watched. Basically, all of the wheelhouse structure and funnel and anything else on the Anne Onedin/Scotch Lass were fakes and lightweight so they could be added and removed easily as needed.

    We even talked about his role as Paul Foster on 'UFO', and how he got to work with some great sci-fi stuff, Gerry Anderson, and those cute girls with the purple wigs on Moonbase. He said the Moon and space scenes were his favorites. He said one of his favorite pranks was to throw on one of those wigs when they were going for a take, and when one of the girls would turn around from her console to deliver her lines, expecting to do so seriously, she would see him staring at her with a blank expression and that wig on, and she would start laughing uncontrollably. (It make me wish I could get my hands on the DVD release of 'UFO'. I've heard they had some outtakes as part of the Special Features on and I'd love to see them.) Mike was so friendly. It broke my heart when I sent him an e-mail from the ship I was stationed on, with a photo of a tall ship I spotted while we were on patrol in the Caribbean, and got a reply from someone with the bad news that Mike had passed.

    I have another pen-pal in the UK that was one of the crew on Charlotte Rhodes during the filming years (before the owner sold the ship to new Dutch owners), and she said pretty much the same thing about the redressing. She also said that most of the scenes filmed on the Charlotte Rhodes was done at the pier (saved on cost that way), using angles that never really let anyone see the "ocean" around them. Once in a while they would set sail for filming when it was necessary. She, like me, was sad to see Charlotte Rhodes leave the series, and even more sad when someone with a grudge set fire to her in her new home and she was burned to the waterline, pretty much destroying her. (I loved that particular ship.) Someone that once had a web site devoted to her (now defunct), had a photo of her wreck posted with loads of other photos of her. He lived not far from the wreck.

    He also made a great model of the ship, and I bought a copy of the plans he'd made based on known measurements and images from the series. My pen-pal confirmed some of the measurements since she was part of the crew, so the plans are pretty accurate, or as accurate as they can be. That guy had a small video of his r/c version of the model sailing on a lake and it looked really cool. (The static model I got the plans for is 3 feet long; the r/c version is a little larger to accommodate the batteries, motors, and r/c control equipment.) I still haven't gotten around to building the model yet, mainly because I don't have the room, but one day I'll get to it. We used to send Christmas e-mails to each other during the holidays, but once his site went down, my e-mails to him got kicked back. I tried searching for him, but he's just dropped off of the planet. I'm still in contact with my Charlotte Rhodes crew pen-pal, though.

    Well, I can blither on more, but I think I've probably bored you (and everyone else) enough for one night!  😉

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: 'Jean Drew' jeandrew@xtra.co.nz [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thu, Aug 24, 2017 5:00 pm
    Subject: RE: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect

     

    Hi Dino

    It was wonderful to see an email from an Onedin Line fan after all this time. I went straight to Google to listen to the music again and discovered, to my delight, several episodes. So I watched one. “Salvage”, which included Michael Billington in the cast. I think l’ve just planned my weekend. LOL

    Best wishes to one and all

    Jean

    From: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com]

    Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 7:14 a.m.

    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com

    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Fan and Friend Looking to Re-connect

    Greetings, All 'Onedin Line' Fans,

    I know this Group has been quiet for a long time, but I was wondering if Linda Huthmaker is still connected. I just tried to send an e-mail and it was kicked back.

    So, Linda, if you're still out there, and you receive this, please e-mail me. I've been out of action for a long time, but I'm starting to get back on my feet again (so to speak).

    Also, it would be nice to see some discussions of 'The Onedin Line' start up again. I miss those.

    All the best,

    Dino.

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    in reply to: Re: Missing Onedin Line Episode? #1577
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Well… this is a complete bummer. (Watch: the actual episode is probably in a container someplace with the name of one of the missing Patrick Troughton episodes of 'Doctor Who' on it… and vice versa!)

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Chris J Brady chrisjbrady@yahoo.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2015 11:50 am
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: Missing Onedin Line Episode?

     

    in reply to: Christian Radich film #1567
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    I'm definitely going to try to get a look at this one, and hopefully get a copy of the rumored restored version on DVD as the Christian Radich occasionally pulls into Norfolk, Virginia, where I can get a good look at her. We have other 'Onedin Line' ships visit us as well, namely the Soren Larsen, and the Statstraad Lehmkuhl.

    Incidentally, I noticed while watching an episode recently that while the Christian Radich was quite often seen in episodes, the ship in the opening credits actually has the name Statstraad Lehmkuhl on the side.

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 7:45 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Christian Radich film

     

    
    Thanks for that Bill!
     
    Long time since we heard from you, hope you are keeping well.
     
    If I can find this (i'm not normally a user of binaries) I'll put it on http://rareshare.me/index.php a nice little torrent site, which also has the complete Onedin line series.
     
    Bill.
     

    —– Original Message —–
    From:
    William Murphy lobsanghoskins@yahoo.com [shiponedingroup]
    Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:09 AM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Christian Radich film

    Onedin cultists and completists (you know who you are!) may like to know that the 1958 film Windjammer, a remarkable documentary about the Christian Radich (the big white ship of the Onedin titles) is on alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-film.pre-1960 at the moment. Well worth a look if you've never seen it.

    Bill Scanlan Murphy
    Music Adviser, Onedin Line Series 8/9

    in reply to: Christian Radich film #1566
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Okay, I'm usually quiet about things like this, but calling fellow members names (in the vulgar slang) is uncalled for, especially when one of those members was the Music Advisor to the Series we love so much! Did you ever consider the fact that neither of those members might not have known about the restored film, or that it was available on DVD? Did it occur to you to post the question to them via the Group? Or did you just have this need to fling vulgar insults and accusations at members (which I'm sure must be a violation of the Group's rules)? Mr. Brady, you may be right, but the way you've gone about it is so very wrong.

    Moderators, Group Owner, please take some action on this.

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Chris J Brady chrisjbrady@yahoo.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 11:13 am
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Christian Radich film

     

    Fuck guys. Its taken millions of dollars and a huge amount of work to get this film restored. There was only ONE remaining viable print, that was discovered by accident in a vault. This was the basis for the restoration.

    The restoration itself – using computer algorithms for the recolouring – took thousands of hours. And the budget even didn't allow for a BluRay version at first.

    THERE WERE NO PROFITS TO BE MADE FROM THIS RESTORATION.

    Meanwhile some twat made a pirate copy from a worn out print in Australia. He sold DVD copies on eBay.

    However when the restored version was released he agree to withdraw his version.

    Now we get other twats trying to pirate the film on Usenet, and even Rareshare.me

    And they have the gall to advertise here.

    For God's sake buy the bloody thing – its worth it and helps to provide funding for further restorations.

    CJB

    ——————————————–

    On Tue, 7/4/15, 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Christian Radich film
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2015, 12:44

    Thanks for that
    Bill!
     
    Long time since we heard
    from you, hope you are
    keeping well.
     
    If I can find this (i'm
    not normally a user of
    binaries) I'll put it on http://rareshare.me/index.php
    a nice
    little torrent site, which also has the complete Onedin line

    series.
     
    Bill.
     

    —– Original Message —–

    From:
    William Murphy
    lobsanghoskins@yahoo.com [shiponedingroup]
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com

    Sent: Tuesday, April
    07, 2015 10:09
    AM
    Subject:
    [shiponedingroup] Christian
    Radich film

    Onedin
    cultists and
    completists (you know who you are!) may like to know that
    the 1958 film
    Windjammer, a remarkable documentary about the Christian
    Radich (the big white
    ship of the Onedin titles) is on
    alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-film.pre-1960
    at the moment. Well worth a look if you've never seen
    it.

    Bill
    Scanlan Murphy
    Music
    Adviser, Onedin Line
    Series 8/9

    in reply to: Site down #1561
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Happy New Year to you, too, Bill! (And to everyone else as well!) I'd have replied sooner, but I was off line as well for a few days – not the computer: me! My back injury was acting up again, and I got hit with a bad vertigo episode. So, I was flat on my back (or curled up in a ball) for several days waiting for the aches and dizzies to go away. Things are better now and I'm at least back on my feet for short hops.

    Sorry to hear about your site, Bill. I wish there was a way to send a massive "kill-the-computer" virus to the hacker so he would get fried (and I'd love to fry him; I abhor hackers!). Another group I belong to for an early 1970s show ('Search' in the US, 'Search Control' in the UK and I think a few other places) had their site hijacked and held for ransom a few years ago. Rather than paying the $3k USD fee to have the site released, the guy who built the site just built another site (on arthost.com) and loaded all of the things that were thankfully backed up onto the new site. So far <knocking on wood> there have been no more problems.

    Hopefully you'll get things sorted out soon and we'll have smooth sailing once again!

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Bill <william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 8:07 am
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Site down

     

    A belated  seasons greetings to all of you.
    Happy New Year!
     
    Just a quick note for anyone who might try to
    access the Onedin Line section of my website.
     
    Due to a hacker gaining control of my
    web servers, I have l deleted all of the sites. Much of the content had
    been altered so this was the safest opition.
     
    There is a backup stored in the cloud so it will
    return, but it will remain off-line until any issues with security are
    identified and corrected.
     
    Bill.
    in reply to: Michael Billington in The Prisoner #1556
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    If you'd like to see a shaven Michael Billington in a larger role, then 'UFO' is a good series. He played Colonel Paul Foster. The series is available on Netflix, but sadly not for streaming; you have to select the DVDs.

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Lee Bonnifield <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 10:40 pm
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Michael Billington in The Prisoner

    That's our Michael Billington as "Woodland Man No. 2" in episode 10**
    "A Change of Mind" (1967) of "The Prisoner"?

    I didn't recognize him (shaven) but I see the end credits.

    small role as thug who attempts to bully No. 6 for being unmutual

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    in reply to: said what? #1540
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Well, then… belay my last. I see Janet has gotten to it first. Well done, Janet! (I've only got English versions, with no subtitles, so I don't know if I'd have been of much help anyhow.)

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Lee Bonnifield <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 10:22 pm
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: said what?

    On 5/22/2013 4:29 PM, Janet L. Gauntt wrote:
    > I'm *greatly* enjoying the technical sailing discussions on the list
    > lately as well as the links to the "Running Tide" companion videos. So I
    > figure the least I can do is to delurk here for a bit to help out with
    > this request ^_^

    Great! I want to know this stuff too!

    > Had to do some research on these. I can't completely follow the
    > dialogue either. The only subtitles I have available are the Dutch ones
    > on the Memphis Belle DVDs that I own. They at least give one some hints…
    >
    >> @11:43
    >> Mate: _ _ _ _!
    >> Captain: Hard to port!
    >
    > This one I'm pretty sure of. The Dutch translation is "Een theekipper,
    > voor anker" (i.e. "A tea clipper, at anchor "). Given that hint, I
    > believe the mate is saying "It's a tea clipper, lying to!". The
    > dictionary I have of sea terms defines "lie to" as "In a gale, where the
    > ship could not run before the wind, sufficient canvas was set to keep
    > her head about six points from the wind, coming up and falling off, and
    > maintaining enough way to maintain steerage". That makes sense given
    > the events and conditions in that scene.

    "It's a tea clipper, lying to!" sounds right to me! Thanks.

    Sailing experts could confirm if "lying to" is also done anchored in
    calm fog (James does give some order a few minutes earlier that I think
    meant "give up, stop"). Your dictionary's definition is interesting, now
    I'd like a description of "coming up and falling off".

    > @34:55
    > Baines: What do you mean, he was there! He told me to _ _ _ _ _! I'd
    > ordered the cover broken off the long boat…
    >
    > The Dutch was no help here. They punted and just said "Hij hield me
    > tegen" ( i.e. "he stopped me"). It kinda sorta sounds like Baines is
    > saying something like "He told me to wait the cloud over". [James's
    > exact words earlier in the episode were "Now, when the fog lifts… Not
    > before". "Cloud" *is* a synonym for fog so this may not be too much of a
    > stretch].

    "He told me to wait the cloud over". I'll buy that one too, it makes
    sense in context.

    > @39:16
    > Doctor: …nor to lift things. Nor to bend, not even to put on your
    > boots. _ _ _ _ _ _ _. Now then where will I send you a bill…
    >
    > The Dutch here is "En zorg voor een goede stoelgang" (i.e. "And make
    > sure you get a good bowel movement" ). Given that hint and listening
    > again to the dialog, I think the doctor is saying "And see that your
    > bowels are kept open". (Which makes sense because James is being
    > instructed not to do anything physical that would cause a rise in ocular
    > pressure, and straining for a bowel movement most certainly would do that).

    "And see that your bowels are kept open". I believe it.

    > @47:47
    > Matt Harvey: Your sister!
    > James: And I had her all neatly packaged _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
    >
    > The Dutch here is "En ik had zo'n, fijn beeld van haar, als
    > heodenmaakster" (i.e. "Yes. And I had such a fine image of her, as a hat
    > maker") So, James is saying something like "And I had her all neatly
    > packaged as a milliner".

    Your translations are very helpful! I bet this one is
    "And I had her all neatly packaged in a little milliner's".

    I'm so glad to have these cleared up! Thanks, Janet!

    Lee

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    in reply to: said what? #1539
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Lee,

    I have to watch that episode again to fill in the blanks and hear what was said. (Unlike with the original 'Trek' re-runs, I haven't watched TOL episodes enough to have most of the episodes' dialogue memorized.) Unfortunately I won't have access to my videos for the next week – currently travelling on holiday for our anniversary. My videos are on the home computer and I won't be getting home until late May 30th, and I'll probably need the 31st to let my back recover from all the travelling. If no one's answered you by then, on Saturday or Sunday I'll re-watch that episode (with your post in front of me) and see what I can do.

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: leebonnifield <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 8:50 pm
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] said what?

    I don't know what is said in some places (I don't have subtitles) or I don't recognize the words or context because I don't know what they mean, please correct me (Dino, this means you, R, & the lurkers.) If there's an issue about accents I may need translation from Liverpudlian.
    ("Liverpudlian" is "jocular" in my Random House American dictionary, is that a word over there?)

    S4N1 The Loss of the Helen Way

    The Helen Way is steaming fast in the fog and the mate has just spotted Onedin's ship and says what?
    @11:43
    Mate: _ _ _ _!
    Captain: Hard to port!

    @34:55
    Baines: What do you mean, he was there! He told me to _ _ _ _ _! I'd ordered the cover broken off the long boat…

    @39:16
    Doctor: …nor to lift things. Nor to bend, not even to put on your boots. _ _ _ _ _ _ _. Now then where will I send you a bill…

    @47:47
    Matt Harvey: Your sister!
    James: And I had her all neatly packaged _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

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