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Hey, Linda!
Yeah, Sheila Allen only played Anne Onedin in the pilot, which was thought to have been lost until a copy of it was found in the US Library of Congress of all places. I don't think it was ever shown here in the States. And you're right; it was Anne Stallybrass who played Anne Onedin in the series (first two seasons, with Anne Onedin dying after giving birth to hers and James' daughter, Charlotte, at the end of Season 2).
Anne Stallybrass and Peter Gilmore (James Onedin) fell in love during the filming, and have lived together for decades. They officially married not all that long ago.
Dino.
P. S. I haven't heard from "Uncle Chuck" (the younger) in a while. I really need to give him a yell or shoot him an e-mail. He was at my retirement ceremony last year and gave me proper grief afterwards. I miss working for him.—–Original Message—–
From: linda huthmaker <lindaannhuthmaker@yahoo.com>
To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:54 am
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Anne OnedinI never knew of another lady to play that part. When I started watching OL, in 1970, it was the lady (I think) who is still married to Peter, in real life.
Linda
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Wow. Anne Stallybrass was a wonderful Anne Onedin. Both She and Sheila Allen are very handsome women and I would love to one day see that pilot just to see Ms. Allen's portrayal of the Character, and how hers differed from Ms. Stallybrass'.Dino.
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From: bty261364 <fiona.j.hall@btopenworld.com>
To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 1:27 pm
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: Sheila AllenThis page has a picture of her in character in the pilot:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15520303
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It's always sad when someone passes. Perhaps one of these days, since they seem to have a copy of the original pilot for TOL that was found in the US Library of Congress, it will be released on DVD and we can see her portrayal of Anne Onedin (nee Webster).Dino.
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From: bty261364 <fiona.j.hall@btopenworld.com>
To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 1:13 pm
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Sheila AllenSaw in the paper this week that Sheila Allen had died (the first Anne Onedin)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2011/oct/20/sheila-allen
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Ignore the double web link addresses and the "mailto:" thing. They are not
in my comments I left at the BBC's web site. For some reason this is being
added to my replies to the group and I have no idea why.In a message dated 3/21/2011 1:07:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
LambuLambu@aol.com writes:All right… something is wrong with my replies. This is the last time I'll
try this. I'm separating my comments with lines since I can't seem to get
the extra line breaks to come through. So, here goes…
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I did this at that BBC link they gave, but with a 350-character
limit to the comment field, the best I could do was this:
————–
A copy of the original “The Onedin Line” pilot episode from December of
1970 with Sheila Allen portraying Anne Onedin has been found at the US
Library of Congress (see items at _http://www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/, ¾ down
the
page: and, _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245) ). Would
the BBC consider releasing this Pilot on DVD?
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The above is 342 characters. Others in the group may feel free to use
this,
edit as you can; just remember the character limit also includes spaces.
————–
Also, the BBC web site says you can enquire about DVD releases by
contacting 2|entertain at this address:
_DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk_ (mailto:DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk)
)
.
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It's an actual e-mail that people read (although you will get an automated
response letting you know that they got your e-mail) so there is no
character limit. You can type any nice letter about this you want. So I
did
that
as well, and while I was at it I asked about more Region 1 releases.
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Dino.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
All right… something is wrong with my replies. This is the last time I'll
try this. I'm separating my comments with lines since I can't seem to get
the extra line breaks to come through. So, here goes…
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I did this at that BBC link they gave, but with a 350-character
limit to the comment field, the best I could do was this:
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A copy of the original “The Onedin Line” pilot episode from December of
1970 with Sheila Allen portraying Anne Onedin has been found at the US
Library of Congress (see items at _http://www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/,_
(http://www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/,) ¾ down the
page: and, _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245) ). Would
the BBC consider releasing this Pilot on DVD?
————-
The above is 342 characters. Others in the group may feel free to use
this,
edit as you can; just remember the character limit also includes spaces.
————–
Also, the BBC web site says you can enquire about DVD releases by
contacting 2|entertain at this address:
_DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk_ (mailto:DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk)
.
————–
It's an actual e-mail that people read (although you will get an automated
response letting you know that they got your e-mail) so there is no
character limit. You can type any nice letter about this you want. So I did
that
as well, and while I was at it I asked about more Region 1 releases.
————-
Dino.In a message dated 3/21/2011 8:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Let me try this again because the last post I sent didn't come out
right…
OK… I did this at that BBC link they gave, but with a 350-character
limit to the comment field, the best I could do was this:
A copy of the original “The Onedin Line” pilot episode from December of
1970 with Sheila Allen portraying Anne Onedin has been found at the US
Library of Congress (see items at http://www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/, ¾ down the
page: and, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245). Would
the BBC consider releasing this Pilot on DVD?
That's 342 characters. Others in the group may feel free to use this,
edit as you can; just remember the character limit also includes spaces.
Also, the BBC web site says you can enquire about DVD releases by
contacting 2|entertain at this address:
DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk.
It's an actual e-mail that people read (although you will get an automated
response letting you know that they got your e-mail) so there is no
character limit. You can type any nice letter about this you want. So I did that
as well, and while I was at it I asked about more Region 1 releases.
Dino.In a message dated 3/21/2011 8:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com writes:Ah!
Well here we go. It seems the BBC doesn't want me to contact them at that
address, and just generates some bot auto-reply.Looks like I'm going to have to dig around to find some human I can talk
to
at the Beeb, shields seem to be up on a personal level.How different from a few years ago when you got a nice reply off someone,
I
suppose the £3.5 billion per year they get off us in licence fees is not
enough to fund some personal attention to its customers anymore?That telephone number looks like it might be a premium rate one too?
Here's the reply I just got from them:
***********************************
This is an automated response from BBC Information.
We are sorry, but our email system can only receive your email if it is
submitted using our pre-formatted webforms. We realise this is an
inconvenience, but webforms allow us to manage the many emails we receive
each day more efficiently and this makes best use of the Licence Fee.Please contact us using our website
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OK… I did this at that BBC link they gave, but with a 350-character limit
to the comment field, the best I could do was this:A copy of the original “The Onedin Line” pilot episode from December of
1970 with Sheila Allen portraying Anne Onedin has been found at the US
Library of Congress (see items at _http://www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/_
(http://www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/) , ¾ down the page: and,
_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245) ). Would the BBC consider releasing this Pilot on DVD?
That's 342 characters. Others in the group may feel free to use this, edit
as you can; just remember the character limit also includes spaces.
Also, the BBC web site says you can enquire about DVD releases by
contacting 2|entertain at this address:
_DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk_ (mailto:DVDenquiryline@2entertain.co.uk)
.
It's an actual e-mail that people read (although you will get an automated
response letting you know that they got your e-mail) so there is no
character limit. You can type any nice letter about this you want. So I did that
as well, and while I was at it I asked about more Region 1 releases.
Dino.In a message dated 3/21/2011 8:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com writes:Ah!
Well here we go. It seems the BBC doesn't want me to contact them at that
address, and just generates some bot auto-reply.Looks like I'm going to have to dig around to find some human I can talk
to
at the Beeb, shields seem to be up on a personal level.How different from a few years ago when you got a nice reply off someone,
I
suppose the £3.5 billion per year they get off us in licence fees is not
enough to fund some personal attention to its customers anymore?That telephone number looks like it might be a premium rate one too?
Here's the reply I just got from them:
***********************************
This is an automated response from BBC Information.
We are sorry, but our email system can only receive your email if it is
submitted using our pre-formatted webforms. We realise this is an
inconvenience, but webforms allow us to manage the many emails we receive
each day more efficiently and this makes best use of the Licence Fee.Please contact us using our website
_http://faq.external.bbc.co.uk/questions/contact/._
(http://faq.external.bbc.co.uk/questions/contact/) If we have previously
given you a reference number, please include this.At _http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/) you can find
answers to common questions we
are asked about our programmes, history, policies and structure, the BBC
Trust and complaints. We also provide documents such as our Annual Report
or
other reports and publications online.Alternatively you can telephone us on 03700 100 222 at any time to
comment,
give your appreciation, make an enquiry, or register a complaint. Calls
from
a BT landline cost up to 8p per minute (some operators and mobiles vary)
and
may be recorded for training purposes.If your query relates to BBC Studio Audiences please resend your message
in
the format provided by one of our online webforms. All are available at
_http://www.bbc.co.uk/tickets_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/tickets) please
choose which one applies best to you.Alternatively you can telephone us on 0370 9011227 to make an enquiry or
comment, give your appreciation, or register a complaint.Thank you
BBC Information
*************************************[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
As far as I know, Jon Pertwee never appeared in TOL, however he was the
actor who played the 3rd "Doctor Who" taking over the role from Doctor #2
Patrick Troughton, and then passing the role to 4th Doctor Tom Baker (who wore
the 12-foot multicolored scarf).In the few episodes I was able to see back in the '70s, Michael Billington
was indeed a better "fit" for Daniel Fogarty. Unfortunately the way the
different TOL series filming was scheduled, Mike wasn't available due to
other project commitments to continue the role although he said he would have
liked to, so they got a "close enough" look-alike to take over.Dino.
In a message dated 2/18/2011 11:42:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sgflikchik@aol.com writes:Who was John Pertwee in the cast?? I loved Michael Billington, and
although his replacement (can't think of name) was very good too, so
smooth and
such a wonderful voice, Michael had that rough and ready, tough around the
edges bad boy quality that was so appealing. Would love to have seen him
in
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I could borrow a quote and say "Everything has its time, and everything
dies."News of anyone's passing is sad enough without it having to be someone
we've gotten to know. I was greatly depressed when Michael Billington (and Jon
Pertwee) passed, as I had corresponded with them both many times, Michael
Billington many more times, and I miss not getting letters from Mr. Pertwee
and e-mails from "Mike" as he said to call him. So, I share in the feeling
of loss over Mr. McKenna's passing.However, to turn the phrase, rather than dwelling on how many Onedin people
we've lost, let's give due mourning to those we have, but let us also
think of all the Onedin people that we still have left to us, to correspond
with, possibly meet one day, and have a chance to talk with.Dino.
In a message dated 2/17/2011 3:02:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
lobsanghoskins@yahoo.com writes:First Mervyn Haisman, and now …
Very sad to read of the passing of Tom Pat (T.P.) McKenna, who played an
Irish mountebank in the last series of Onedin. I was always a huge fan, and
grabbed the opportunity to get to know him when he worked on the show. A
delightful, funny man who had a helpful word for everyone. Well, nearly
everyone. I expect he and Pennant Roberts are now back at each other's throats
in the BBC Club In The Sky.There'll soon be no-one left from the show at this rate. Look at how many
Onedin people have left us in the last six months.Bill Scanlan Murphy
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I would think there has to be some talking between the Library and BBC
before this is settled. Unless someone closer to the matter knows anything to
the contrary, I believe the BBC still holds the rights to TOL, or at least
the estate of Cyril Abraham does. So it could take a while before this
particular find becomes public domain. (I could be wrong; if I am, someone
please correct me.)Dino.
In a message dated 2/17/2011 2:06:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
chrisjbrady@yahoo.com writes:If this is ever released into the public domain it'll soon be on
http://www.TheBox.bz and able to be torrent downloaded. CJB.— On Tue, 15/2/11, _LambuLambu@aol.com_ (mailto:LambuLambu@aol.com)
<_LambuLambu@aol.com_ (mailto:LambuLambu@aol.com) > wrote:From: _LambuLambu@aol.com_ (mailto:LambuLambu@aol.com)
<_LambuLambu@aol.com_ (mailto:LambuLambu@aol.com) >
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Is the pilot found?
To: _shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com)
Date: Tuesday, 15 February, 2011, 17:20Yeah! Wow! That's like finding the Holy Grail of TOL episodes! Hopefully
the BBC will release that on DVD one day soon. (Not that it would do us
Yanks
any good as it's nigh on impossible to get hold of any TOL DVDs on this
side of the pond.)[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yeah! Wow! That's like finding the Holy Grail of TOL episodes! Hopefully
the BBC will release that on DVD one day soon. (Not that it would do us Yanks
any good as it's nigh on impossible to get hold of any TOL DVDs on this
side of the pond.)Also, just below the listing of TOL, did anyone notice the photo of Bernard
Cribbins in a still from "Charlie's Aunt" (1961)? (He was the policeman in
the Peter Cushing "Doctor Who: Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 AD", and then
Wilfred Mott, Donna Noble's grandad in David Tennant's final 'series' of the
"New Who".) I know this is a bit off topic – OK, way off topic – but it
makes me wonder how many missing "Doctor Who" episodes are in that Library of
Congress. (All packed away in that box next to the Ark of the Covenant, no
doubt!)Dino.
P.S. Hey, Linda! I saw "Uncle Chuck" (Jr.) the other day and we had a nice
chat, and talked about how small this planet really is!In a message dated 2/14/2011 3:51:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sonotavailable@yahoo.com writes:I had a look at IMDB, and found something about the long lost pilot:
_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245)Anyone in US able to have a look?
Cheers!
Lars
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Yeah! Wow! That's like finding the Holy Grail of TOL episodes! Hopefully
the BBC will release that on DVD one day soon. (Not that it would do us Yanks
any good as it's nigh on impossible to get hold of any TOL DVDs on this
side of the pond.)Also, just below the listing of TOL, did anyone notice the photo of Bernard
Cribbins in a still from "Charlie's Aunt" (1961)? (He was the policeman in
the Peter Cushing "Doctor Who: Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 AD", and then
Wilfred Mott, Donna Noble's grandad in David Tennant's final 'series' of the
"New Who".) I know this is a bit off topic – OK, way off topic – but it
makes me wonder how many missing "Doctor Who" episodes are in that Library of
Congress. (All packed away in that box next to the Ark of the Covenant, no
doubt!)Dino.
P.S. Hey, Linda! I saw "Uncle Chuck" (Jr.) the other day and we had a nice
chat, and talked about how small this planet really is!In a message dated 2/14/2011 3:51:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sonotavailable@yahoo.com writes:I had a look at IMDB, and found something about the long lost pilot:
_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074035/board/nest/170653245)Anyone in US able to have a look?
Cheers!
Lars
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Sort of reminds one of "Doc Martin", James Onedin does; doesn't he?Dino.
In a message dated 12/19/2010 7:10:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kilmarnock@transoradea.wanadoo.co.uk writes:i don't have any exact facts to prove this with, it's just a feeling. a
feeling I've always had about James and that was why he was my fav character.
that under that hard surface and difficult temperament, he was as lost as
anyone. and because he wasn't very influenceable and therefore could not
change to become less unhappy, I pitied him quite a lot. I tend to fall for
that typa guy, lol========================================
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AAAHH!! You are correct, sir. I do remember that now. He named his daughter after his first acquired ship, '"Charlotte" Rhodes'. It was his steamship that he was having built during one series that he was going to name the 'Anne Onedin'. (So many names, so many years gone by, not enough brain cells.)I stand corrected.
Dino.
On Dec 18, 2010, at 7:39:01 PM, sgflikchik@aol.com wrote:
From: sgflikchik@aol.com
Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Elizabeth and James query?
Date: December 18, 2010 7:39:01 PM EST
To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
James names his daughter Charlotte, not Anne.In a message dated 12/18/2010 7:36:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,�
LambuLambu@aol.com�writes:This was only Episode 10, and actually, I believe James is unhappy about�
Anne's miscarriage, and the loss of what could possibly have been the heir�
to his shipping empire one day. That would definitely have James feeling�
very somber, and for a while that could give the impression that he has lost�
some of his spirit. Also, if I remember correctly, there was always some�
friction between James and Elizabeth, not always shown openly between the two,�
but shown as they spoke of each other to other people. (It's been a while�
so I could be wrong about that, but it may explain why Elizabeth was so�
callous in her comments.)Anne dies in the last episode of Series 2, Episode 14 "Race For Power",�
while actually giving birth to James' daughter, who I believe James names�
Anne after her (now late) mother. James was definitely saddened when Anne died�
as he had grown to love her very much.Dino.
On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:59:46 AM, regencylady04 <regencylady04@yahoo.co.uk>�
wrote:From: regencylady04 <regencylady04@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Elizabeth and James query?
Date: December 18, 2010 10:59:46 AM EST
To:�shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
Thanks for doing this…But does anyone have any idea? Why does Eliz say this about James? I dont�
see any sign that he's lost his spirt exactly? He is desperately unhappy�
about Anne's death… surely that is natural.Any discussion?
— > Elizabeth is at James' house with a letter from Albert saying he is�
developing the means of shipping refrigerated meat. James says of Albert `�
he's not the man I took him for'. Elizabeth replies `nor are you these days�
James. You're not one half the man you once were – you've lost your�
spirit'.
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This was only Episode 10, and actually, I believe James is unhappy about Anne's miscarriage, and the loss of what could possibly have been the heir to his shipping empire one day. That would definitely have James feeling very somber, and for a while that could give the impression that he has lost some of his spirit. Also, if I remember correctly, there was always some friction between James and Elizabeth, not always shown openly between the two, but shown as they spoke of each other to other people. (It's been a while so I could be wrong about that, but it may explain why Elizabeth was so callous in her comments.)Anne dies in the last episode of Series 2, Episode 14 "Race For Power", while actually giving birth to James' daughter, who I believe James names Anne after her (now late) mother. James was definitely saddened when Anne died as he had grown to love her very much.
Dino.
On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:59:46 AM, regencylady04 <regencylady04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: regencylady04 <regencylady04@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [shiponedingroup] Elizabeth and James query?
Date: December 18, 2010 10:59:46 AM EST
To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
Thanks for doing this…But does anyone have any idea? Why does Eliz say this about James? I dont see any sign that he's lost his spirt exactly? He is desperately unhappy about Anne's death… surely that is natural.
Any discussion?
— > Elizabeth is at James' house with a letter from Albert saying he is developing the means of shipping refrigerated meat. James says of Albert ` he's not the man I took him for'. Elizabeth replies `nor are you these days James. You're not one half the man you once were – you've lost your spirit'.
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