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Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved, I hope you can use them. I said
>They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me, including the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> (BTW I have already downloaded the photos and the files to my computer,
> so if no other solution is found, I will be able to make them available
> from my server. The messages will be lost, however, unless they copied
> one by one with copy and paste, which seems to be a rather dull job :))
>
> IstvánThanks István !
I still have about 100 messages (including all 44 of mine) which I could
send you. They're in plaintext (including the mail headers) which makes
it easy (one copy operation) to put them into a new inbox in my
Thunderbird email reader. I can supply instructions. Maybe you'd prefer
one text file without the headers.A dozen+ of my messages referred to 10 minute videos ("The Running
Tide") I posted on my public onedrive site. They're 30-50 megabytes
each, still available to download fromhttps://onedrive.live.com/?id=DF9A1A8355E5C330%21172&cid=DF9A1A8355E5C330
I did not post them to shiponedingroup files because they were not
actually part of The Onedin Line, they were fillers added by my local
PBS station after the broadcast of each TOL in the first season. They're
seafaring documentaries on a subject related to the TOL episode. I don't
have the copyright to them but I have never received a complaint from
PBS and I couldn't find them online or elsewhere. If you're setting up a
new group or compiling TOL files you (or TOL fans) are welcome to copy them.Lee Bonnifield
On 2015-04-08 22:49, William Murphy lobsanghoskins@yahoo.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:> … My (first) wife's cousin was an
> actress called April Walker, probably best known to history as Jon
> Pertwee's unfortunate mistress and an occasional face on Benny Hill and
> Fawlty Towers. H owever, at one stage April was the wife of Anthony
> Isaac, the first Music Adviser on Onedin.Would that be the actress named April Walker who played music hall
singer Carrie Harris in season 2, Coffin Ship, & Frisco Bound?The Running Tide 15 sea chanties
is upBut this one is only an MP3, audio only, because there was no useable video
That is the last of The Running Tides that I'm aware of
I'll put this file list on the website as The Running Tide.txt
file size
min:sec file type
The Running Tide 1 sails & ships 56,617,094 09:45
.WMV 640×480
The Running Tide 2 navigation 52,264,818 09:00
"
The Running Tide 3 Superstition 48,952,614 08:26
"
The Running Tide 4 Arts 44,848,350 07:42
"
The Running Tide 5 crimping 46,112,428 07:55
"
The Running Tide 6 steam 49,912,668 08:35
"
The Running Tide 7 railroads 34,575,726 05:57
"
The Running Tide 8 steamboat women 36,975,870 06:22
"
The Running Tide 9 smuggling, piracy 47,072,491 08:05
"
The Running Tide 10 luxury steamers 38,399,957 06:36
"
The Running Tide 11 mutiny, duties 43,864,299 07:33
"
The Running Tide 12 slave ships 44,624,341 07:40
"
The Running Tide 13 medicine 53,088,869 09:08
"
The Running Tide 14 American Civil War 46,032,425 07:54
"
The Running Tide 15 sea chanties 7,307,642 07:36
.MP3 audio only"The Running Tide" was broadcast on PBS ~1977 with one TRT video playing
after each "The Onedin Line" episode. Two hours of TOL+TRT were
broadcast on the same night and I recorded them all on a color VTR.
There was no time to rewind the 1 hour 7" reel of videotape, I just
removed the first takeup reel, and put on an empty reel and threaded a
new full reel to get the second hour.PBS broadcast only seasons 1 & 2 of TOL. The subjects of TRT were
approximately matched to themes of TOL during season 1 but I guess TRT
had already been produced independently. During season 2 TOL they
repeated one of the 15 TRT videos that were already broadcast following
a season 1 TOL.The 15 TRT episodes I recorded are the only ones I know. I made up the
filenames since they show no titles.
Dino's search located a VHS copy of several episodes in a Philadelphia
museum libraryhttp://www.worldcat.org/title/running-tide/oclc/36057253
That's all I know about the production of TRT. The only credits say
Produced by WYES New Orleans
for SECA
Southern Educational Communications AssociationHere's why the video quality is so low. It was an antenna broadcast
~1977, to my trick TV with composite video & audio output, to Panasonic
3160 VTR, then in early 1980's copied to VHS cassettes in 6 hour mode.
Age VHS for 30 years and age VCR's for 20 years. The VCR output signal
today is often glitchy enough to shut down my 640×480 AD, and even the
320×240 AD can't compensate for frames that are defective. There was no
useable video in the output of TRT15 so I only saved the soundtrack as
.MP3. Conceivably the 4 VHS cassettes that include TRT videos could be
professionally cleaned and transferred to DVD (that costs $40 per
cassette) and that would recover TRT with better video.I don't plan on doing an Onedin Line website. If you want these videos
on your Onedin etc website please take copies. I
expect I will not delete these from my public skydriveuntil I know they're established elsewhere.
– Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
On 6/15/2013 5:00 PM, Chris J Brady wrote:> Wonderful.Just a request – can the files be captioned on the SkyDrive
> page please. I can't remember which ones I've downloaded!! Thanks. Chris B.I see the problem and I'm not sure how to fix it. Skydrive asks me to
enter a description and I do (same as the filename) but then it doesn't
show you either filename or description on the default thumbnails view.
Hover on the icons in the upper right corner — I think you'll find one
is "Thumbnails" and another icon is "Details". Click on Details view,
that will show you the filenames & sizes.Glad you like them!
The Running Tide 14 American Civil War
is upS1N14 Blockade
James runs the Yankee blockade to bring war supplies to the Confederates.TRT14 mentions steam engineer John Ericsson, who was designing the
ironclad Monitor about the time Albert was writing to Ericsson in S1N13.The Running Tide 13 medicine
is upS1N13 Shadow of Doubt
James takes immigrants to Canada. Two of them are Sarah Onedin's brother
Jeremy Stirling and his wife Kate. They become sick,
James diagnoses smallpox. Jeremy dies. James writes "natural causes"
in the log in order to evade quarantine.The Running Tide 12 slave ships
is upS1N12 "Cry of the Blackbird"
James is paid to transport Papuans by a corrupt parson who has tricked
James & the Papuans into thinking they are converts going to a mission
school in Victoria. But they figure out their destiny is slavery in the
cane fields, and they send the parson to hell quick-time.The Running Tide describes much more brutal treatment for slaves being
transported. This New Orleans production says nothing about the cruelty
of slavery, it focuses on the shipboard conditions and blames the
captains from New England ports who profited from the trade.The Running Tide 11 mutiny, duties
is upS1N11 "Mutiny"
One of James' captains has gone mad and driven the crew to mutinyThe Running Tide 10 luxury steamers
is upS1N10 "A Very Important Passenger"
Garibaldi might have wished he'd taken a luxury steamer, given the
number of crew who wanted to kill him on James' shipalso after several attempts I made a little better transfer of TRT 9
smuggling, piracy and put it up to replace the previous copy
so if you saw TRT 9 before today 2013-06-12 you might want to look at
that one againOn 5/23/2013 5:23 AM, plyndon13 wrote:>> Let me know your thoughts – BTW I have done quiet a lot of sailing in English Sail Training Ships so I have a far knowledge of ships and the sea.
Please explain "coming up and falling off" as in the quote from Janet
>dictionary I have of sea terms defines "lie to" as "In a gale, where the
ship could not run before the wind, sufficient canvas was set to keep
her head about six points from the wind, coming up and falling off, and
maintaining enough way to maintain steerage".I think "maintaining steerage" means the speed thru the water (way) is
fast enough for the rudder to be effective. But lying to is almost not
moving? 6 points = 67.5 degrees? I think coming up and falling off must
be accomplished with the rudder, sails don't change? Or do booms swing
in the process? You're heading mostly across the wind, a little into the
wind, in a gale, moving fast enough for the rudder to be effective?Also, we still don't know why the boom gallows on the Soren Larsen (like
in the closing credits of the final episode S8N9)
has 3 notches on top. We think one is for resting the boom of the main
mast.The Running Tide 9 smuggling, piracy
is upsorry, it is very poor video quality
S1N9 "When My Ship Comes Home" James smuggles war supplies to rebels
On 5/26/2013 7:44 PM, Elaine de Saxe wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:20:48 -0400, Lee Bonnifield wrote:
>
>> Running Tide 8 steamboat women
> Particularly interesting for me, being a woman fascinated by steam. In
> the context of the times, strong independent women were the exception.
>
> Thank you Lee for converting and posting these videos 🙂
>
> Cheers
>
> Elaine in Brisbane, AustraliaToot toot! I liked the calliope too.
[Lee]>> ("Liverpudlian" is "jocular" in my Random House American dictionary, is that a word over there?)
sure it is, OED has an 1833 usage, 'puddle instead of 'pool
Please fill in the blanks, I don't know what is said
S3N13 The Passenger
@02:41
Baines: The men was wondering about a sub, [what's a sub?] sir. Every
man of us ready to go ashore spruced up and jim dandy. But unless they
has a dollar to jingle, the crimps are going to entice them away with
promises of whores and brandy. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ and that's the last we'll
see of them.@03:11
James: She's a fast ship. Baines is a driver.
Draygon: Glad to hear it. _ _ _ _ _ _,,Captain?
James: Open as a book. Right, what have you got for me?@12:58
Hogan: Morning Captain. Sign on as bosun.
Baines: Ryan Hogan. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ below.
Hogan: Aye aye Captain.On 5/22/2013 4:29 PM, Janet L. Gauntt wrote:> I'm *greatly* enjoying the technical sailing discussions on the list
> lately as well as the links to the "Running Tide" companion videos. So I
> figure the least I can do is to delurk here for a bit to help out with
> this request ^_^Great! I want to know this stuff too!
> Had to do some research on these. I can't completely follow the
> dialogue either. The only subtitles I have available are the Dutch ones
> on the Memphis Belle DVDs that I own. They at least give one some hints…
>
>>>
>> @11:43
>> Mate: _ _ _ _!
>> Captain: Hard to port!
> >>
>
> This one I'm pretty sure of. The Dutch translation is "Een theekipper,
> voor anker" (i.e. "A tea clipper, at anchor "). Given that hint, I
> believe the mate is saying "It's a tea clipper, lying to!". The
> dictionary I have of sea terms defines "lie to" as "In a gale, where the
> ship could not run before the wind, sufficient canvas was set to keep
> her head about six points from the wind, coming up and falling off, and
> maintaining enough way to maintain steerage". That makes sense given
> the events and conditions in that scene."It's a tea clipper, lying to!" sounds right to me! Thanks.
Sailing experts could confirm if "lying to" is also done anchored in
calm fog (James does give some order a few minutes earlier that I think
meant "give up, stop"). Your dictionary's definition is interesting, now
I'd like a description of "coming up and falling off".> @34:55
> Baines: What do you mean, he was there! He told me to _ _ _ _ _! I'd
> ordered the cover broken off the long boat…
>>>
>
> The Dutch was no help here. They punted and just said "Hij hield me
> tegen" ( i.e. "he stopped me"). It kinda sorta sounds like Baines is
> saying something like "He told me to wait the cloud over". [James's
> exact words earlier in the episode were "Now, when the fog lifts… Not
> before". "Cloud" *is* a synonym for fog so this may not be too much of a
> stretch]."He told me to wait the cloud over". I'll buy that one too, it makes
sense in context.> @39:16
> Doctor: …nor to lift things. Nor to bend, not even to put on your
> boots. _ _ _ _ _ _ _. Now then where will I send you a bill…
>>>
>
> The Dutch here is "En zorg voor een goede stoelgang" (i.e. "And make
> sure you get a good bowel movement" ). Given that hint and listening
> again to the dialog, I think the doctor is saying "And see that your
> bowels are kept open". (Which makes sense because James is being
> instructed not to do anything physical that would cause a rise in ocular
> pressure, and straining for a bowel movement most certainly would do that)."And see that your bowels are kept open". I believe it.
> @47:47
> Matt Harvey: Your sister!
> James: And I had her all neatly packaged _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
>>>
>
> The Dutch here is "En ik had zo'n, fijn beeld van haar, als
> heodenmaakster" (i.e. "Yes. And I had such a fine image of her, as a hat
> maker") So, James is saying something like "And I had her all neatly
> packaged as a milliner".Your translations are very helpful! I bet this one is
"And I had her all neatly packaged in a little milliner's".I'm so glad to have these cleared up! Thanks, Janet!
Lee
On 5/22/2013 8:57 AM, Chris J Brady wrote:> Great uploads. Thank you. Do you have more. Please keep them coming!!!!
I'm glad you like them! Here's another, I call it
The Running Tide 8 steamboat women
on my public skydrive
Series 1 N8 "Homecoming"
James comes home to find Anne's old boyfriend is visiting
