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  • #1459
    leebonnifield
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    I'm glad to see other people are as impressed with The Onedin Line as I have been!

    I've read all the messages and hope to reply to some. After seeing the enthusiasm and dedication of list members trying to get DVDs of the complete series I started skipping those messages about availability — I guess everybody has sources now. I just bought the 91 episode 32 DVD Region 1 set from sir_Arlen

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONEDIN-LINE-32-DVDs-Region-1-complete-8-series-/200908674584?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item2ec7171618

    I think that's a good value at $127 + $3 postage but ask about the clipped end credits.

    I first saw OL about 1977 when PBS broadcast series 1 & 2 in the US. VCR's didn't exist then but I was such a video enthusiast I'd bought a reel-to-reel color video tape recorder, so I was able to record those episodes and I watched them so many times I practically had them memorized. PBS followed the 50 minute episodes with a 10 minute feature "The Running Tide", which was a short historical documentary about seafaring. The topic was often related to a theme of the OL episode.

    When Anne died I thought that was a final end. PBS stopped broadcasting the series ~1978, I assumed that was the end of the series. When I bought a VCR in 1981 I copied my OL reel tapes to VHS and kept re-watching them. Years later in a library glancing at an Australian newspaper I was thrilled to notice the TV listings — they were getting series 5!

    Then I think it was the Arts & Entertainment channel about 1990 where I got series 5-8 on VHS, missing only the first few episodes of series 7. Recently I tried copying my 30 year old VHS cassettes to DVD and realized how crummy my old VHS cassettes are. I still may try to recover "The Running Tide" (15 different topics), I thought they were very well done too,

    I started shopping for DVDs and quickly found the set above. Now I've seen series 3-4 for the first time and watched the whole series twice! So I may remember answers to some questions and if I think of questions I bet somebody out there has recently watched the relevant episodes.

    #1460
    liamegan2000
    Member
    Hello and welcome.

    Apologies for the long wait you have had before your message appeared on the
    list. Technical difficulties and bad weather to blame.

    Our readers in North America will be glad of the link to region 1 discs, I
    know this has been a problem as PAL region 2 discs are not easily played by
    the equipment on sale there.

    Bill.

    —– Original Message —–
    From: "leebonnifield" <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:54 AM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here

    > I'm glad to see other people are as impressed with The Onedin Line as I
    > have been!
    >
    > I've read all the messages and hope to reply to some. After seeing the
    > enthusiasm and dedication of list members trying to get DVDs of the
    > complete series I started skipping those messages about availability — I
    > guess everybody has sources now. I just bought the 91 episode 32 DVD
    > Region 1 set from sir_Arlen
    >
    > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONEDIN-LINE-32-DVDs-Region-1-complete-8-series-/200908674584?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item2ec7171618
    >
    > I think that's a good value at $127 + $3 postage but ask about the clipped
    > end credits.
    >
    > I first saw OL about 1977 when PBS broadcast series 1 & 2 in the US. VCR's
    > didn't exist then but I was such a video enthusiast I'd bought a
    > reel-to-reel color video tape recorder, so I was able to record those
    > episodes and I watched them so many times I practically had them
    > memorized. PBS followed the 50 minute episodes with a 10 minute feature
    > "The Running Tide", which was a short historical documentary about
    > seafaring. The topic was often related to a theme of the OL episode.
    >
    > When Anne died I thought that was a final end. PBS stopped broadcasting
    > the series ~1978, I assumed that was the end of the series. When I bought
    > a VCR in 1981 I copied my OL reel tapes to VHS and kept re-watching them.
    > Years later in a library glancing at an Australian newspaper I was
    > thrilled to notice the TV listings — they were getting series 5!
    >
    > Then I think it was the Arts & Entertainment channel about 1990 where I
    > got series 5-8 on VHS, missing only the first few episodes of series 7.
    > Recently I tried copying my 30 year old VHS cassettes to DVD and realized
    > how crummy my old VHS cassettes are. I still may try to recover "The
    > Running Tide" (15 different topics), I thought they were very well done
    > too,
    >
    > I started shopping for DVDs and quickly found the set above. Now I've seen
    > series 3-4 for the first time and watched the whole series twice! So I
    > may remember answers to some questions and if I think of questions I bet
    > somebody out there has recently watched the relevant episodes.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ————————————
    >
    > Website about the Onedin Line
    > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >
    >
    >

    #1461
    coolowl2001
    Member
    On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:05:10 +0100, Bill wrote:

    > Our readers in North America will be glad of the link to region 1 discs, I
    > know this has been a problem as PAL region 2 discs are not easily played by
    > the equipment on sale there.

    Maybe we're luckier in Oz than I think. Must be 15 years minimum that
    I've been able to play NTSC tapes on a VHS tape machine – it was more
    to do with the TV having the wiring to handle the different number of
    lines. Then since I've had DVD players, once the region-blocks have
    been hacked, toss in a disk and it plays whatever its format. If that
    can happen in the small market that is Australia, it's weird that
    machines with the wiring (or whatever you call it) are not available in
    more populous countries. And on the computer, if you download the free
    VLC DVD player, regions and formats don't matter.

    Cheers

    Elaine in Australia

    #1462
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    Wow! No PBS channel I could get aired 'The Onedin Line', much less 'The Running Tide' (which sounds like some episodes I'd love to get copies of!). I was able to see TOL (several series behind what was current) in 1979-1980 on Channel 9 (WOR it was then, not WWOR like now) in New York City. They stopped airing episodes after "A Proposal of Marriage" (Series 3, Episode 9), and I thought that was the end until I found this great Group, and a few other sites dedicated to the Series.

    And in my quest for TOL knowledge I stumbled across a Tall ship forum (I don't think it exists anymore), but on there I found a pen pal who sailed aboard the Charlotte Rhodes in 1975-76 before she was sold (which is why she is only mentioned, but never seen in the Series again in anything other than stock footage of her underway). I also became pen pals with Michael Billington (about TOL as well as 'UFO') before he passed away. He was a great guy who seemed to love talking (e-mailing?) with fans of both shows.

    So welcome aboard! Things are usually quiet here, but when discussions get going they're very interesting and quite a few members get involved. And I do have a question that no one has been able to answer yet: maybe I missed it when watching my way through the entire Series, but at some point in Series 7 or 8, it's mentioned that James Onedin has no steamships, yet I can't remember any mention in a previous series where there's mention of him permanently selling the Anne Onedin.

    I know he lost her when Jack Frazer sold her and she was renamed Scotch Lass, but then James regained possession of her (in "A Proposal of Marriage" via salvage rights) and renamed her Anne Onedin again. Then he sold her for 5,000 pounds (I forget the episode's title), used that money to buy several small schooners, then turned around and sold the schooners during the coal miners' strike making 10 thousand pounds on the deal, and bought back the Anne Onedin for only 2,000 pounds.

    That was the last I knew of James doing any selling of her, and he still had her at the end of Series 6. So, was there something I missed that left him without the Anne Onedin in Series 7 and 8?

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: leebonnifield <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 4:56 am
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here

    I'm glad to see other people are as impressed with The Onedin Line as I have been!

    I've read all the messages and hope to reply to some. After seeing the enthusiasm and dedication of list members trying to get DVDs of the complete series I started skipping those messages about availability — I guess everybody has sources now. I just bought the 91 episode 32 DVD Region 1 set from sir_Arlen

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONEDIN-LINE-32-DVDs-Region-1-complete-8-series-/200908674584?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item2ec7171618

    I think that's a good value at $127 + $3 postage but ask about the clipped end credits.

    I first saw OL about 1977 when PBS broadcast series 1 & 2 in the US. VCR's didn't exist then but I was such a video enthusiast I'd bought a reel-to-reel color video tape recorder, so I was able to record those episodes and I watched them so many times I practically had them memorized. PBS followed the 50 minute episodes with a 10 minute feature "The Running Tide", which was a short historical documentary about seafaring. The topic was often related to a theme of the OL episode.

    When Anne died I thought that was a final end. PBS stopped broadcasting the series ~1978, I assumed that was the end of the series. When I bought a VCR in 1981 I copied my OL reel tapes to VHS and kept re-watching them. Years later in a library glancing at an Australian newspaper I was thrilled to notice the TV listings — they were getting series 5!

    Then I think it was the Arts & Entertainment channel about 1990 where I got series 5-8 on VHS, missing only the first few episodes of series 7. Recently I tried copying my 30 year old VHS cassettes to DVD and realized how crummy my old VHS cassettes are. I still may try to recover "The Running Tide" (15 different topics), I thought they were very well done too,

    I started shopping for DVDs and quickly found the set above. Now I've seen series 3-4 for the first time and watched the whole series twice! So I may remember answers to some questions and if I think of questions I bet somebody out there has recently watched the relevant episodes.

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    #1463
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Was it Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of 'Two nations divided by a common language'?
     
    Charlotte Rhodes disappeared because she caught fire. Funnily enough catching fire also played a part in Soren Larsen appearing as she was bought as a burnt out insurance salvage write-off for very little money, the owners got her rigged and sailing, they then landed the BBC work which allowed them to refit her fully although we did buy two Portapotti loos for the ladies to use, they weren't too keen to use the ships 'Gludge', a portable shed with galvanized funnel leading overboard and a bucket with rope to provide the flush.

    — On Tue, 23/4/13, LambuLambu@aol.com <LambuLambu@aol.com> wrote:

    From: LambuLambu@aol.com <LambuLambu@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, 23 April, 2013, 17:34

     

    Wow! No PBS channel I could get aired 'The Onedin Line', much less 'The Running Tide' (which sounds like some episodes I'd love to get copies of!). I was able to see TOL (several series behind what was current) in 1979-1980 on Channel 9 (WOR it was then, not WWOR like now) in New York City. They stopped airing episodes after "A Proposal of Marriage" (Series 3, Episode 9), and I thought that was the end until I found this great Group, and a few other sites dedicated to the Series.

    And in my quest for TOL knowledge I stumbled across a Tall ship forum (I don't think it exists anymore), but on there I found a pen pal who sailed aboard the Charlotte Rhodes in 1975-76 before she was sold (which is why she is only mentioned, but never seen in the Series again in anything other than stock footage of her underway). I also became pen pals with Michael Billington (about TOL as well as 'UFO') before he passed away. He was a great guy who seemed to love talking (e-mailing?) with fans of both shows.

    So welcome aboard! Things are usually quiet here, but when discussions get going they're very interesting and quite a few members get involved. And I do have a question that no one has been able to answer yet: maybe I missed it when watching my way through the entire Series, but at some point in Series 7 or 8, it's mentioned that James Onedin has no steamships, yet I can't remember any mention in a previous series where there's mention of him permanently selling the Anne Onedin.

    I know he lost her when Jack Frazer sold her and she was renamed Scotch Lass, but then James regained possession of her (in "A Proposal of Marriage" via salvage rights) and renamed her Anne Onedin again. Then he sold her for 5,000 pounds (I forget the episode's title), used that money to buy several small schooners, then turned around and sold the schooners during the coal miners' strike making 10 thousand pounds on the deal, and bought back the Anne Onedin for only 2,000 pounds.

    That was the last I knew of James doing any selling of her, and he still had her at the end of Series 6. So, was there something I missed that left him without the Anne Onedin in Series 7 and 8?

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: leebonnifield <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 4:56 am
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here

    I'm glad to see other people are as impressed with The Onedin Line as I have been!

    I've read all the messages and hope to reply to some. After seeing the enthusiasm and dedication of list members trying to get DVDs of the complete series I started skipping those messages about availability — I guess everybody has sources now. I just bought the 91 episode 32 DVD Region 1 set from sir_Arlen

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONEDIN-LINE-32-DVDs-Region-1-complete-8-series-/200908674584?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item2ec7171618

    I think that's a good value at $127 + $3 postage but ask about the clipped end credits.

    I first saw OL about 1977 when PBS broadcast series 1 & 2 in the US. VCR's didn't exist then but I was such a video enthusiast I'd bought a reel-to-reel color video tape recorder, so I was able to record those episodes and I watched them so many times I practically had them memorized. PBS followed the 50 minute episodes with a 10 minute feature "The Running Tide", which was a short historical documentary about seafaring. The topic was often related to a theme of the OL episode.

    When Anne died I thought that was a final end. PBS stopped broadcasting the series ~1978, I assumed that was the end of the series. When I bought a VCR in 1981 I copied my OL reel tapes to VHS and kept re-watching them. Years later in a library glancing at an Australian newspaper I was thrilled to notice the TV listings — they were getting series 5!

    Then I think it was the Arts & Entertainment channel about 1990 where I got series 5-8 on VHS, missing only the first few episodes of series 7. Recently I tried copying my 30 year old VHS cassettes to DVD and realized how crummy my old VHS cassettes are. I still may try to recover "The Running Tide" (15 different topics), I thought they were very well done too,

    I started shopping for DVDs and quickly found the set above. Now I've seen series 3-4 for the first time and watched the whole series twice! So I may remember answers to some questions and if I think of questions I bet somebody out there has recently watched the relevant episodes.

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    #1464
    galacticprobe
    Participant
    No language diving nations here, my friend.

    According to the extensive research in the book "The World of The Onedin Line" (copyright 1977, Alison McLeay), in 1976 the Charlotte Rhodes was sold to new Dutch owners. At this point due to her age she needed extensive maintenance to keep her seaworthy, and her owner (Captain James "Mac" Mackreth) was getting on in years and so decided to sell her.

    Here (http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=596439) is a photo of her in port in Medemblik, Netherlands, in October 1979 (still afloat and intact). Charlotte Rhodes was sadly destroyed by arson in Amsterdam some months later in 1980.

    The thing that irks me is that now there are some sites out there touting a schooner called the Kathleen and May – which bears a striking resemblance to the Charlotte Rhodes, but is a good 30 feet shorter – as having been the schooner used in the series to portray the Charlotte Rhodes (when the Charlotte Rhodes clearly portrayed herself). And while she may be about as old as Charlotte Rhodes was, K&M was out of service from 1968 until 1998: in a dreadful state of disrepair in 1968, acquired by the Maritime Trust in 1970 (who failed to raise the money to restore her), then into the hands of Steve Clarke who bought her and finished the restoration work. And nowhere in her history does it say that K&M was in service in the 1970s, or used in any TV or film work during the '70s decade (http://www.kathleenandmay.co.uk/history.html).

    I've contacted most of those sites and provided them with the above info, thinking they might not want to be putting out false info (phrasing it as "so you have this info for when you update your site"). I received e-mails profusely thanking me as they were indeed about to update their sites. To this day they are still putting out that incorrect info. (I hate sites like that.)

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: R <advcour@btinternet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 2:17 pm
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here

    Was it Winston Churchill who said something along the lines of 'Two nations divided by a common language'?

    Charlotte Rhodes disappeared because she caught fire. Funnily enough catching fire also played a part in Soren Larsen appearing as she was bought as a burnt out insurance salvage write-off for very little money, the owners got her rigged and sailing, they then landed the BBC work which allowed them to refit her fully although we did buy two Portapotti loos for the ladies to use, they weren't too keen to use the ships 'Gludge', a portable shed with galvanized funnel leading overboard and a bucket with rope to provide the flush.

    — On Tue, 23/4/13, LambuLambu@aol.com <LambuLambu@aol.com> wrote:

    From: LambuLambu@aol.com <LambuLambu@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, 23 April, 2013, 17:34

    Wow! No PBS channel I could get aired 'The Onedin Line', much less 'The Running Tide' (which sounds like some episodes I'd love to get copies of!). I was able to see TOL (several series behind what was current) in 1979-1980 on Channel 9 (WOR it was then, not WWOR like now) in New York City. They stopped airing episodes after "A Proposal of Marriage" (Series 3, Episode 9), and I thought that was the end until I found this great Group, and a few other sites dedicated to the Series.

    And in my quest for TOL knowledge I stumbled across a Tall ship forum (I don't think it exists anymore), but on there I found a pen pal who sailed aboard the Charlotte Rhodes in 1975-76 before she was sold (which is why she is only mentioned, but never seen in the Series again in anything other than stock footage of her underway). I also became pen pals with Michael Billington (about TOL as well as 'UFO') before he passed away. He was a great guy who seemed to love talking (e-mailing?) with fans of both shows.

    So welcome aboard! Things are usually quiet here, but when discussions get going they're very interesting and quite a few members get involved. And I do have a question that no one has been able to answer yet: maybe I missed it when watching my way through the entire Series, but at some point in Series 7 or 8, it's mentioned that James Onedin has no steamships, yet I can't remember any mention in a previous series where there's mention of him permanently selling the Anne Onedin.

    I know he lost her when Jack Frazer sold her and she was renamed Scotch Lass, but then James regained possession of her (in "A Proposal of Marriage" via salvage rights) and renamed her Anne Onedin again. Then he sold her for 5,000 pounds (I forget the episode's title), used that money to buy several small schooners, then turned around and sold the schooners during the coal miners' strike making 10 thousand pounds on the deal, and bought back the Anne Onedin for only 2,000 pounds.

    That was the last I knew of James doing any selling of her, and he still had her at the end of Series 6. So, was there something I missed that left him without the Anne Onedin in Series 7 and 8?

    Dino.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: leebonnifield <lee78@localnet.com>
    To: shiponedingroup <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 4:56 am
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] I'm new here

    I'm glad to see other people are as impressed with The Onedin Line as I have been!

    I've read all the messages and hope to reply to some. After seeing the enthusiasm and dedication of list members trying to get DVDs of the complete series I started skipping those messages about availability — I guess everybody has sources now. I just bought the 91 episode 32 DVD Region 1 set from sir_Arlen

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONEDIN-LINE-32-DVDs-Region-1-complete-8-series-/200908674584?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item2ec7171618

    I think that's a good value at $127 + $3 postage but ask about the clipped end credits.

    I first saw OL about 1977 when PBS broadcast series 1 & 2 in the US. VCR's didn't exist then but I was such a video enthusiast I'd bought a reel-to-reel color video tape recorder, so I was able to record those episodes and I watched them so many times I practically had them memorized. PBS followed the 50 minute episodes with a 10 minute feature "The Running Tide", which was a short historical documentary about seafaring. The topic was often related to a theme of the OL episode.

    When Anne died I thought that was a final end. PBS stopped broadcasting the series ~1978, I assumed that was the end of the series. When I bought a VCR in 1981 I copied my OL reel tapes to VHS and kept re-watching them. Years later in a library glancing at an Australian newspaper I was thrilled to notice the TV listings — they were getting series 5!

    Then I think it was the Arts & Entertainment channel about 1990 where I got series 5-8 on VHS, missing only the first few episodes of series 7. Recently I tried copying my 30 year old VHS cassettes to DVD and realized how crummy my old VHS cassettes are. I still may try to recover "The Running Tide" (15 different topics), I thought they were very well done too,

    I started shopping for DVDs and quickly found the set above. Now I've seen series 3-4 for the first time and watched the whole series twice! So I may remember answers to some questions and if I think of questions I bet somebody out there has recently watched the relevant episodes.

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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