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Bill, I have received your invite, however, I noticed then that groups.io does not accept any new transfer requests (https://groups.io/yahootransfer)... So we have indeed run out of time 🙁That said, I have found this tool: https://github.com/IgnoredAmbience/yahoo-group-archiver. I have managed to download all content (all conversations, files and photos), except the member list. I could set up a forum on my server (which I mentioned earlier) and import this data into it, just as groups.io could have done.However, it would be nice to have member list as well (though, of course, people would be able to subscribe once the forum is up). I think the reason for the tool failing to download it is that my user account has no access to it.Bill, could you make me an administrator or some other kind of user with a higher access level, so that I could try downloading the member list?Thanks,IstvánOn Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:09 PM István Váradi <ivaradi@gmail.com> wrote:Perhaps it failed, because I am already in the group with that email address. Could you try another one, perhaps my other address: ivaradi@varadiistvan.hu?On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:20 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I can use the invite form in mamnagement
which wen using your address gives:István Váradi ivaradi@gmail.com — Invalid Email—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 1:47
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayHi Bill,could you check if you can send an invite from
the group to an email address?If so, it seems to me that the groups.io transfer can still work. You need to
create a new group there, and upgrade it to premium for one year. It costs
$220 when paid in advance for the full year, or $20/month. I am willing to do
this including paying for it (and then later we can organize some sharing of
the cost, but let's not try to do it now as time is scarce), but only if you
can send an invite, as otherwise it will not work. So, please check if you can
send an invite.On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
I was unable to get into the site as it just
came up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one as
they sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9
years ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account
I'd made to guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo
groups.I got to the group panel and have downloaded
all the files.So what now?Bill.—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:14
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved,
I hope you can use them. I said
>They're
in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but
they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among
other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open
Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then
I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly
rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14
PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and
I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me,
including the headers. That way I might be able to
>
setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic
structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could
import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Perhaps it failed, because I am already in the group with that email address. Could you try another one, perhaps my other address: ivaradi@varadiistvan.hu?On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:20 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I can use the invite form in mamnagement
which wen using your address gives:István Váradi ivaradi@gmail.com — Invalid Email—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 1:47
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayHi Bill,could you check if you can send an invite from
the group to an email address?If so, it seems to me that the groups.io transfer can still work. You need to
create a new group there, and upgrade it to premium for one year. It costs
$220 when paid in advance for the full year, or $20/month. I am willing to do
this including paying for it (and then later we can organize some sharing of
the cost, but let's not try to do it now as time is scarce), but only if you
can send an invite, as otherwise it will not work. So, please check if you can
send an invite.On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
I was unable to get into the site as it just
came up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one as
they sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9
years ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account
I'd made to guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo
groups.I got to the group panel and have downloaded
all the files.So what now?Bill.—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:14
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re:
Yahoo Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com
[shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved,
I hope you can use them. I said
>They're
in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but
they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among
other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open
Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then
I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly
rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14
PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and
I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me,
including the headers. That way I might be able to
>
setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic
structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could
import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Hi Bill,could you check if you can send an invite from the group to an email address?
If so, it seems to me that the groups.io transfer can still work. You need to create a new group there, and upgrade it to premium for one year. It costs $220 when paid in advance for the full year, or $20/month. I am willing to do this including paying for it (and then later we can organize some sharing of the cost, but let's not try to do it now as time is scarce), but only if you can send an invite, as otherwise it will not work. So, please check if you can send an invite.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM 'Bill' william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I was unable to get into the site as it just came
up 'email address not recognized'.Interesting because this is the same one as they
sent the message on!Anyway I dug out an old laptop I used about 9 years
ago and fortunately on it were the login details of another account I'd made to
guard against being locked out this and other Yahoo groups.I got to the group panel and have downloaded all
the files.So what now?Bill.—– Original Message —–Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:14
PMSubject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: Yahoo
Groups Are Going AwayWho not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup]
<shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved, I
hope you can use them. I said
>They're in
plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they
are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to
Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other
mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird it
sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I see the
messages in chrono order with the html
correctly rendered. I
hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee
Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com
[shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and I
would be grateful if you could
> send them to me, including
the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup some
website where the messages would be displayed in
>
chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this
message have been removed]Hi Bill,maybe the "Feedback" link can help. There is a section named "Support Issues", perhaps you could post a support request there asking Yahoo to restore your access.IstvánHi Lee,thanks, I am quite confident I will be able to use the messages.The website with the messages will be available at https://onedin.varadiistvan.hu. Currently it contains only a default website, but I will make the messages available in some format during the coming weeks. But maybe only shortly before Christmas, depending on my spare time.IstvánOn Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 9:28 PM Lee Bonnifield <lee78@localnet.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved, I hope you can use them. I said
>They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me, including the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>Moving the group to IO would require the administrator to invite a certain e-mail address. However, I could not contact the administrator. But we still have some time till Deember 14, so perhaps there is still hope that the administrator steps forward and the moving can be completed.IstvánOn Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:14 PM Chris J Brady <chrisjbrady@yahoo.com> wrote:Who not move the group to IO. But time has just about run out. CJBOn Friday, 29 November 2019, 20:28:10 GMT, Lee Bonnifield lee78@localnet.com [shiponedingroup] <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi István,
Here are the messages I saved, I hope you can use them. I said
>They're in plaintext (including the mail headers)
but they are html format, the way they were distributed. The headers let
them be displayed in readable format, at least when given to Thunderbird
email. When I put the file "onedin" in among other mail boxes while
Tbird is closed, next time I open Tbird it sees the new file and builds
indexes for it. Then I see the messages in chrono order with the html
correctly rendered. I hope this works for you. Please let me know.
Lee Bonnifield
On 11/28/19 2:14 PM, ivaradi@gmail.com [shiponedingroup] wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
>
> thanks for offering the messages, and I would be grateful if you could
> send them to me, including the headers. That way I might be able to
> setup some website where the messages would be displayed in
> chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or
> perhaps a forum into which I could import them.
>
> István
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Hi Lee,thanks for offering the messages, and I would be grateful if you could send them to me, including the headers. That way I might be able to setup some website where the messages would be displayed in chronological order and perhaps preserving the topic structure. Or perhaps a forum into which I could import them.IstvánHello,I have looked into the transfer to groups.io.It requires a Premium group there for the transfer, but the Premium subscription can be cancelled after a year. I am willing to pay for it (but if someone wants to share the costs, I would not refuse :))However, the transfer requires the ability to send an invite from this group to a certain e-mail address. I cannot find any button or menu item to do so, and since this group is restricted, I assume only an administrator has such a capability (and I am not one).So I think it would be nice, if our administrator would chip in. If he/she does not want to deal with the transfer, I am ready to become an administrator and deal with the rest.(BTW I have already downloaded the photos and the files to my computer, so if no other solution is found, I will be able to make them available from my server. The messages will be lost, however, unless they copied one by one with copy and paste, which seems to be a rather dull job :))IstvánHi,I'm from Hungary, so I can understand what's written on that page 🙂
It is about the original series, and lists the actors and actresses
who dubbed it. In Hungary, it is the custom to dub movies and series
instead of subtitling them.It may be interesting, that the page mentions the "new" version of
dubbing ("Új szinkron verzó"). There is/was an old version made in the
80s, when the first few seasons of the series were originally
broadcast on Hungarian TV. Its fate is unknown: some say that the
recordings were destroyed by fire, some say that they still exist. The
new version was made in the 90s when the series was broadcast again,
but in its entirety this time. Onedin Line is being issued in Hungary
on DVD (2 seasons so far) with this new version.Istvan
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 15:29, Bill <william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> This seems to be a page about Onedin, possibly a remake for Hungarian (?)
> TV?
>
> http://www.szinkron.gportal.hu/gindex.php?pg=16381097
>
> Any translators here?
>
> Bill.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>Rob and Maija, thanks for the help.István
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 19:40, Maija <maija.turunen@pp1.inet.fi> wrote:
> Hi István,
> I think the episode you meant is the fouth episode of series 4 called
> UNDERCURRENT.
> And as Rob wrote it was Elisabeth not James who took the cartels on.
>
> Maija
>
> — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "István Váradi" <ivaradi@…>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have recently found an article in Hungarian about economics and in
>> particular, cartels. The author mentions an episode of The Onedin
>> Line, in which the main issue is that freight prices are expected to
>> become lower. However, the major shipping lines, including Onedin,
>> agree to form a cartel to keep the prices high. Of course, Onedin
>> plans to break the agreement as soon as it is put in place, and he
>> gains a lot by doing so.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar? Could anyone tell which episode this could be?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> István
>>
>
>Hello,On 5/15/07, bastet1958 <bastet1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "István Váradi" <ivaradi@…>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
>
> >
> > On 5/15/07, Elaine de Saxe <coolowl@…> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good morning "shipmates" …
> > >
> > > Just found some more sites which have a tiny bit more on the Onedin
> > > Line …
> > >
> > > http://www.thechestnut.com/onedin/onedin.htm – promises much but
> > > delivers little 🙁
> > >
> > > http://www.exetermemories.co.uk/EM/onedinline.html – great pix and
> > > some background info on the series.
> > >
> > > http://www.merseyshipping.co.uk/features/ShipsOnFilm/shipsontv.htm –
> > > covers many movies/TV series and for the ship-buffs among us could be
> > > a source of great interest.
> > >
> > > Not sure if this is true but I read recently that the Charlotte
> > > Rhodes was destroyed by fire in 1980-something … does anyone have
> > > any definite information?
> > >
> > > Also read that Howard Lang died in 1989.
> > >
> > > And I've been having a real wander about the internet to see if there
> > > are any more DVDs/Videos past Series 4 and have come up with a great
> > > big blank.
> > >
> > > And I did a fairly comprehensive search of surname databases and came
> > > up with another blank. I really cannot find any entries there or in
> > > telephone books for Onedin. Looks like it is not a surname with a
> > > family attached. Given all the variations among surnames, it seems
> > > amazing that someone thought up one which is unique. Does any lista
> > > know anything definite on the surname Onedin?
> >
> > I have no definite information on the name "Onedin" as it is, but a
> > few years ago I was in Stockholm, and was suprised to see a building
> > on the quay with the word "Anedin" displayed on it. The "A" has a
> > small circle or ring at the top of it, and the pronunciation of such
> > an "A" is very similar to an "O". So "Onedin" may be the
> > "englishified" version of this apparently existing Scandinavian name.
> > A further link is that the building (or at least the display) I saw
> > belongs to a shipping line, see http://www.anedinlinjen.com
> >
> > Istvan
> >
> > >
> > > Drat that we've finished watching all 4 series and wonder if we'll
> > > live long enough to see series 5 to 8 given the great amount of time
> > > taken to get even these out.
> > >
> > > Have a great week 🙂
> > >
> > > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
> >
>
> Hello Istvan,
>
> I'm afraid I have to contradict your theory. In fact, it was the other
> way round: The shipping line was named after the TV-series!
>
> When the shipping line was founded, back in the seventies, "The Onedin
> Line" was very popular in Sweden. In Swedish the series is called
> "Onedinlinjen". Maybe the owner of the shipping company hoped some of
> the series' success would also fall upon his business when he called
> it "Anedinlinjen" (the pronunciation is really the same). But it
> remained a small company, owning only one ship which is mostly used as
> a ferry between Stockholm and Mariehamn.I see. But at least there is some connection 🙂
>
> To my knowledge there is no Swedish name like "onedin" or "anedin",
> but possibly our Swedish members can tell us more about that. I think
> that the name "onedin" actually is a creation of Cyril Abraham.
>
> By the way, can you tell us how "The Onedin Line" is called in Hungarian?It is called "Onedin család", which stands for "Onedin family".
István
>
> Erika
>
>Hello,On 5/15/07, Elaine de Saxe <coolowl@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Good morning "shipmates" …
>
> Just found some more sites which have a tiny bit more on the Onedin
> Line …
>
> http://www.thechestnut.com/onedin/onedin.htm – promises much but
> delivers little 🙁
>
> http://www.exetermemories.co.uk/EM/onedinline.html – great pix and
> some background info on the series.
>
> http://www.merseyshipping.co.uk/features/ShipsOnFilm/shipsontv.htm –
> covers many movies/TV series and for the ship-buffs among us could be
> a source of great interest.
>
> Not sure if this is true but I read recently that the Charlotte
> Rhodes was destroyed by fire in 1980-something … does anyone have
> any definite information?
>
> Also read that Howard Lang died in 1989.
>
> And I've been having a real wander about the internet to see if there
> are any more DVDs/Videos past Series 4 and have come up with a great
> big blank.
>
> And I did a fairly comprehensive search of surname databases and came
> up with another blank. I really cannot find any entries there or in
> telephone books for Onedin. Looks like it is not a surname with a
> family attached. Given all the variations among surnames, it seems
> amazing that someone thought up one which is unique. Does any lista
> know anything definite on the surname Onedin?I have no definite information on the name "Onedin" as it is, but a
few years ago I was in Stockholm, and was suprised to see a building
on the quay with the word "Anedin" displayed on it. The "A" has a
small circle or ring at the top of it, and the pronunciation of such
an "A" is very similar to an "O". So "Onedin" may be the
"englishified" version of this apparently existing Scandinavian name.
A further link is that the building (or at least the display) I saw
belongs to a shipping line, see http://www.anedinlinjen.comIstvan
>
> Drat that we've finished watching all 4 series and wonder if we'll
> live long enough to see series 5 to 8 given the great amount of time
> taken to get even these out.
>
> Have a great week 🙂
>
> Elaine in Brisbane, AustraliaHi,although I joined last year, I have not introduced myself yet.
I am from Hungary, and The Onedin Line was on TV in our country in the
80s (and perhaps late 70s). Born in 1975 I watched the series as a I
child, and I liked it mostly because of the ships and the adventures.
I also always liked stories taking place in the late 19th century,
perhaps because the world seemed much freer then (which was very much
in contrast to the oppressive communism I lived in, and probably I
felt the huge difference even as a child). Of course, there are many
stories about the late 19th century with ships and adventures, but The
Onedin Line was special because of its general quality.I was not alone liking this series, because when the show was
broadcast on Tuesday evenings (that was the "slot" for The Series – we
had only one main TV channel and at any one time it ran only one
series from a western country), the streets in the Hungarian cities
got practically empty. Even when the show was re-run in the 90s, I
found it to be still one of the best series (despite having seen a lot
of more recent, mainly American series by then), though perhaps it was
not liked so much by the general public then.István
On 1/17/07, Bill <william.whittaker1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At the start of 2007 I see we have a few new members to our group, hello you are very welcome. Perhaps you might introduce yourselves and tell us what it is about the Onedin Line you find so compelling. Or maybe you just want to find out about DVD releases or something about the cast of the show.
>
> Whatever it is that is what this list is for. Exchange views about the series.
>
> I'll take this opportunity to wish everyone on here all the best for 2007.
>
> Bill.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
