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  • in reply to: Onedin DVDs #100
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Yep, the dutch region 2 DVD's are exactly like this, 3 or 4 episodes,
    one after each other, without a break or the title music. The good thing
    is, that you have a whole season with one of these sets.

    Reinhard from Austria

    Megan wrote:

    > Hi Barbara,
    >
    > I've got this DVD set, and it is four disks and coded region 4. Each
    > DVD is presented as one episode, ie. as a compilation of 3 or 4
    > episodes. I believe that region 2 DVD was also presented like this.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Megan.
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "bafibo"
    > <Barbara.Fischer-Bossert@w…> wrote:
    >>
    >> Has anyone seen the new Australian DVD edition of season one
    >> (http://www.dvdbits.com/reviews.asp?id=2666)? It is coded region 4,
    >> but with a multi-region player it should not be a problem to see it
    >> elsewhere than Australia.
    >> The given overall running time of 750 minutes would account for 15
    >> episodes of 50 minutes but I cannot find an episode list. The short
    >> contents descriptions of the four DVDs could be written for the BBC
    >> or dutch edition as well.
    >> At another address
    >> (http://www.dvdorchard.com.au/Product.asp?PND=111856) the same
    >> edition is to include five DVDs instead of four but with only 632
    >> minutes contents. That does not make sense at all.
    >> I would much like to know if this edition is cut like the others or
    >> not.
    >>
    >> — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Diana" <moonroll@n…>
    >> wrote:

    in reply to: US DVD #539
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Thanks Diana,
    A great series too bad it's not available in its
    entirety. It was broadcast in the 70s (?). It may
    not
    have been as popular in the US as in England, but I
    know I enjoyed it. Good acting and sailing ships,
    too.
    Unfortunately I can't play PAL on my VCR. Darn. I
    wonder if UK DVDs are compatible.
    Thanks again for the info.
    Ron
    — Diana <moonroll@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    >
    > Hi Ron,
    >
    > As stated in previous messages, set one of the BFS
    > DVDs contains
    > episodes one to four of series one and set two
    > episodes five to
    > eight. Unfortunately, this is all that's available
    > in the US as far
    > as I know. In Europe series one, two and three are
    > currently
    > available on DVD. I believe series one and two were
    > also released in
    > Australia by the BBC on video but I'm not positive
    > about this.
    >
    > The BFS DVDs are well worth getting as these are the
    > complete
    > episodes as originally broadcast (all other versions
    > of series one
    > that I'm aware of have been cut, a few scenes quite
    > drastically). If
    > anyone is interested in obtaining these DVDs/videos,
    > they can be
    > purchased from amazon.com, cduniverse, etc. and also
    > via eBay but do
    > check they are compatible with your equipment!
    >
    > While on the subject, I'd like to appeal to all
    > Onedin Line fans to
    > email BFS and ask them to release further episodes
    > on DVD:
    > http://www.bfsent.com
    >
    > Diana
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    in reply to: Captain Baines – Did the Scripwriter give him a Raw Deal? #533
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    hi Ron, what do you find unnerving? Im a big big fan of the show, I
    ahave seen all the eps whn I was a child, or v nearly and I've got
    some of them on video, so I can bore you wiht information…

    Im wondering are you misunderstanding the term aristocrat which in
    England is applied to a v small minority who are rich, well bred anad
    mostly who were landowners. Thye were thte ruling class in the 19th
    C , but gradually people from the midldle classes who began to make
    large fortunes in trade or industry began to take part in politics,
    to buy up landed estates and generally to become part fo the ruling
    elite as well.

    JO is typical of THIS rising class.. he starts off as a shopkeeper's
    son, not poor but far from rich. His family own a small business.
    Anne, his first wife, is not higher than him socially – or perhaps
    just a tiny bit. Her fathter was in the Navy, which is a tiny cut
    above trade, and he managed ot buy a ship to make some money in his
    old age. However, he is not much a businessman and he is alos a
    drunk which is why he ends up deciding to sell the ship for ready
    money. and Anne then suggests to James that if he were to marry her
    and take care of her, he could have hte ship for free.

    not sure what you mean by Her sister?

    G

    > I do not doubt your info since you may have seen the
    > show from the beginning (I did not as I only caught
    > some eps on PBS in the States). However I find it a
    > bit unnerving that (wasn't his first wife into
    > shipping? Her sister (?) was wasn't she) so I wonder
    > how JO could have married her in the first place. She
    > may have been out of his class in the Victorian age.
    > Ron
    > — gduch2001 <gduch2001@y…> wrote:
    > >
    > > yahoo.com

    in reply to: Captain Baines – Did the Scripwriter give him a Raw Deal? #532
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Hi G,
    I do not doubt your info since you may have seen the
    show from the beginning (I did not as I only caught
    some eps on PBS in the States). However I find it a
    bit unnerving that (wasn't his first wife into
    shipping? Her sister (?) was wasn't she) so I wonder
    how JO could have married her in the first place. She
    may have been out of his class in the Victorian age.
    Ron
    — gduch2001 <gduch2001@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    >
    > —JO was NOT an aristrocrat.. he was lower midlde
    > class – his family
    > kept a small shop, they were nto poor but they wree
    > far from rihc nad
    > certianly not aristocratic.
    >
    > but as Baines employer, JO was socially superor to
    > him although he
    > was clealry fond of him and they ahd a freindship –
    > it was not really
    > a freindship of equals
    >
    > G
    >
    > . JO was
    > > basically an aristocrat from the beginning (?) and
    > > married Anne to gain the shipping line. WB was
    > just a
    > > common sailor who worked his way up. Though it
    > does
    > > seem confusing at times why JO would not consider
    > WB
    > > his equal (when it was Capt. WB) it is sort of the
    > > caste system of the victorian era.
    > > Searching for WB in Labrador would have been the
    > > code of the sea (going to another's distress) and
    > > would
    > > not necessarily mean they were buddy-buddy.
    > > I have not seen all the eps but what happen to
    > Anne
    > > Onedin? Did she die or get a divorce from James?
    > > Ron
    > > — stuart_fanning <stuart.fanning@n…>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Does anyone else think it strange that, in the
    > main,
    > > > the
    > > > Baines/James Onedin relationship didn't develop
    > all
    > > > that much. If
    > > > you look at their relationship during the first
    > > > couple of seasons
    > > > and the last two seasons, it hadn't changed that
    > > > much. Surely over
    > > > the 20 or 30 years they were together Baines
    > would
    > > > have grown in
    > > > self confidence so that there relationship would
    > > > have become more of
    > > > one of equals. Obviously it couldn't completely
    > as
    > > > Baines was a
    > > > senior employee, but Onedin's growing reliance
    > on
    > > > Baines over the
    > > > years should have pushed things in that
    > direction. I
    > > > think Onedin
    > > > would have accepted a more equal relationship,
    > but
    > > > the series
    > > > scriptwriters really didn't develop the Baines
    > > > character very much.
    > > > Onedin obviously cared for Baines as the long
    > search
    > > > in icy Labrador
    > > > proved and the naming of Onedin's son William at
    > the
    > > > endof the
    > > > series.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    in reply to: Question regarding series on DVD #536
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Hi Reini,
    Thanks for the info. I am still going to purchase
    it. I will let everyone know what it contains.
    Thanks again,
    Ron
    — Reini <allofme@utanet.at> wrote:

    > I don't know. I bought the netherland Edition of the
    > whole first season,
    > it contains 4 DVD's with more than 10 hours, yummy
    > 🙂 It was also
    > considerably cheap at ebay (25 Euros), if you have a
    > way of obtaining
    > it, grab it!
    >
    > Reinhard from Austria, a fan, even though he was
    > just a kid in the
    > seventies, but also good for me, because I remember
    > only bits and
    > pieces, so it has a whole new and fresh feeling to
    > it 🙂
    >
    > Ron wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > I am looking at purchasing for right now 'The
    > Onedin Line Set 1'
    > > at Borders Bookstores. It cost $59.95. I am
    > curious if anyone in the
    > > US has purchased this yet? By set do they mean
    > 'Series' or is it a
    > > complilation of best episodes?
    > > Regardless, though I am curious, I will
    > eventually purchase it.
    > > Just curious as to what the DVD contains.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Ron
    >
    >

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    in reply to: Question regarding series on DVD #535
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    I don't know. I bought the netherland Edition of the whole first season,
    it contains 4 DVD's with more than 10 hours, yummy 🙂 It was also
    considerably cheap at ebay (25 Euros), if you have a way of obtaining
    it, grab it!

    Reinhard from Austria, a fan, even though he was just a kid in the
    seventies, but also good for me, because I remember only bits and
    pieces, so it has a whole new and fresh feeling to it 🙂

    Ron wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I am looking at purchasing for right now 'The Onedin Line Set 1'
    > at Borders Bookstores. It cost $59.95. I am curious if anyone in the
    > US has purchased this yet? By set do they mean 'Series' or is it a
    > complilation of best episodes?
    > Regardless, though I am curious, I will eventually purchase it.
    > Just curious as to what the DVD contains.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Ron

    in reply to: Captain Baines – Did the Scripwriter give him a Raw Deal? #531
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    — yes I agree… there was a bond, but James is a hard man – not
    completley ruthless but deeply selfish – who has grown up in a hard
    world and has litlte time for feelings.

    I agree too about the proposal to Leonora – but the whole series 3
    was weak becuase it tried to make James inot a womaniser whch he
    wasnt'. He was too busy making money to be interested in women – and
    i beleive that Peter Gilmore refused ot do any more shows unless they
    made James more like his old self…

    I can just about think he chose Leonora because Caroline had turned
    him down repeatedly and he wanted to remarry and have soemone to keep
    house anad look after his child, plus probably he woudl have liekd to
    have a son by her – and she was rich and pretty. I think that he idd
    like her a bit – but the proposal was mostly out of selfish rasons.

    G

    > Its also the case that Onedin named the South American port – Port
    > Baines – I think there was more of a bond than previous posters have
    > suggested.
    >
    > It must be remembered that JO was a man who was totally driven by

    self

    > interest, and had little time for emotional bonds – his sudden
    > conversion to propose to Leonora is particularly jarring.
    >
    > He's an interesting character for a popular drama – an anti-hero who
    > you totally root for, and he's not really "held back" by being
    > surrounded by villainous rivals/enemies. The nearest you really get
    > is Callan in season one. Certainly Fogerty mark I is a rival, but
    > aside from compromising Elizabeth, he's not really an enemy.
    >
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "stuart_fanning"
    > <.com/new_mail

    in reply to: Captain Baines – Did the Scripwriter give him a Raw Deal? #530
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    —JO was NOT an aristrocrat.. he was lower midlde class – his family
    kept a small shop, they were nto poor but they wree far from rihc nad
    certianly not aristocratic.

    but as Baines employer, JO was socially superor to him although he
    was clealry fond of him and they ahd a freindship – it was not really
    a freindship of equals

    G

    . JO was

    > basically an aristocrat from the beginning (?) and
    > married Anne to gain the shipping line. WB was just a
    > common sailor who worked his way up. Though it does
    > seem confusing at times why JO would not consider WB
    > his equal (when it was Capt. WB) it is sort of the
    > caste system of the victorian era.
    > Searching for WB in Labrador would have been the
    > code of the sea (going to another's distress) and
    > would
    > not necessarily mean they were buddy-buddy.
    > I have not seen all the eps but what happen to Anne
    > Onedin? Did she die or get a divorce from James?
    > Ron
    > — stuart_fanning <stuart.fanning@n…>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Does anyone else think it strange that, in the main,
    > > the
    > > Baines/James Onedin relationship didn't develop all
    > > that much. If
    > > you look at their relationship during the first
    > > couple of seasons
    > > and the last two seasons, it hadn't changed that
    > > much. Surely over
    > > the 20 or 30 years they were together Baines would
    > > have grown in
    > > self confidence so that there relationship would
    > > have become more of
    > > one of equals. Obviously it couldn't completely as
    > > Baines was a
    > > senior employee, but Onedin's growing reliance on
    > > Baines over the
    > > years should have pushed things in that direction. I
    > > think Onedin
    > > would have accepted a more equal relationship, but
    > > the series
    > > scriptwriters really didn't develop the Baines
    > > character very much.
    > > Onedin obviously cared for Baines as the long search
    > > in icy Labrador
    > > proved and the naming of Onedin's son William at the
    > > endof the
    > > series.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    in reply to: Captain Baines – Did the Scripwriter give him a Raw Deal? #527
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Hi Stuart,
    Not really (though possibly puzzling). JO was
    basically an aristocrat from the beginning (?) and
    married Anne to gain the shipping line. WB was just a
    common sailor who worked his way up. Though it does
    seem confusing at times why JO would not consider WB
    his equal (when it was Capt. WB) it is sort of the
    caste system of the victorian era.
    Searching for WB in Labrador would have been the
    code of the sea (going to another's distress) and
    would
    not necessarily mean they were buddy-buddy.
    I have not seen all the eps but what happen to Anne
    Onedin? Did she die or get a divorce from James?
    Ron
    — stuart_fanning <stuart.fanning@ntlworld.com>
    wrote:

    >
    > Does anyone else think it strange that, in the main,
    > the
    > Baines/James Onedin relationship didn't develop all
    > that much. If
    > you look at their relationship during the first
    > couple of seasons
    > and the last two seasons, it hadn't changed that
    > much. Surely over
    > the 20 or 30 years they were together Baines would
    > have grown in
    > self confidence so that there relationship would
    > have become more of
    > one of equals. Obviously it couldn't completely as
    > Baines was a
    > senior employee, but Onedin's growing reliance on
    > Baines over the
    > years should have pushed things in that direction. I
    > think Onedin
    > would have accepted a more equal relationship, but
    > the series
    > scriptwriters really didn't develop the Baines
    > character very much.
    > Onedin obviously cared for Baines as the long search
    > in icy Labrador
    > proved and the naming of Onedin's son William at the
    > endof the
    > series.
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    in reply to: Captain Baines – Did the Scripwriter give him a Raw Deal? #526
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    — I dont quite know waht you mean? They were not socially eqauls
    and James actually didn't seem incliend to wnat a more equitable
    relationsip – though Im not sure what form that would take? – in fact
    at every attempt by Baines to set up on his own, James took offence
    and quarreeled with him.

    G

    >
    > Does anyone else think it strange that, in the main, the
    > Baines/James Onedin relationship didn't develop all that much. If
    > you look at their relationship during the first couple of seasons
    > and the last two seasons, it hadn't changed that much. Surely over
    > the 20 or 30 years they were together Baines would have grown in
    > self confidence so that there relationship would have become more

    of

    > one of equals. Obviously it couldn't completely as Baines was a
    > senior employee, but Onedin's growing reliance on Baines over the
    > years should have pushed things in that direction. I think Onedin
    > would have accepted a more equal relationship, but the series
    > scriptwriters really didn't develop the Baines character very much.
    > Onedin obviously cared for Baines as the long search in icy

    Labrador

    > proved and the naming of Onedin's son William at the endof the
    > series.

    in reply to: Does anyone like the character Elizabeth? #516
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    she has lots of redeeming qualities, she is tough, intelligent (it
    was unusaul – soem might say a litlte unrealistic- for a woman to be
    running a business like that)… she is a loving mother, she is a
    kindly employer (by Victorian standards), she is a good sister to
    James – adn a good friend to Anne and Letty… and she is good fun as
    well, and likes to enjoy life.

    G

    >
    > She is a little bit spoilt being the youngest in the family and the

    only daughter.

    > But she is a very brave young Victorian woman having her own will

    wanting more of life than just the security of marriage and her
    brains works as well as James's.

    >
    > The life would be quite dull in Liverpoll without Elisabeth, her

    explosions are refreshing!!!

    >
    > Maija
    > —– Original Message —–
    > From: stuart_fanning
    > To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:51 PM
    > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Does anyone like the character

    Elizabeth?

    >
    >
    >
    > I am rewatching the first three seasons of The Onedin Line again

    and

    > it has reminded me of how much I dislike Elizabeth. Does anyone
    > actually like the character and can suggest any redeeming

    qualities?

    >
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    in reply to: Series 8 – Planned to be the final series? #504
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    no, im sure it was not anne. She could not have breastfed a baby as
    she died after teh conclusion of her only succesful pregnancy, (ie
    wehn Charlotte was born) so it woudl have been unlikely if not
    downright impossbile for her to lactate.

    im sure you are thinking of the ep where she left james and moved in
    with the wife of the strike leader, Mrs Jessop who had a young baby.
    Series 2 ended wiht Ann'es deaht in Chidlbirht adn series 3 ended
    with James trying to befreind his daughter Charlotte who was now
    meant to be about 9 or 10. (htey later changed hte ages sicne in
    later seasons Charlotte had to be close in age to WIllaim Frazer
    sicnce she had a romance with him).

    G

    > I seem to remember that episode and I believe it was
    > Anne. I confronted Channel 10 (Public Broadcasting
    > that showed the series) and the girl said you weren't
    > supposed to see that. I believe it was Anne. I do
    > not believe that the series was completely aired here
    > in the states but I may not have seen all the eps
    > either. Anyway I think that scene was the last of the
    > series in the states. It seemed that the series ended
    > shortly (for the states anyway) where JO is seen with
    > his little daughter who seemed about 4 or so. (belive
    > that was the same ep with Anne bfing someones child).
    > Ron
    > — gduch2001 <gduch2001@y…> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > I have seen it many times & I certianly cnat'
    > > remember that!! Do oyu
    > > mean Anne? No Im sure that didn't happen… I think
    > > you may be thin
    > > king of an ep wh ere Anne was livign iwth a working
    > > class woman, wehn
    > > she had left james temporarily, and the woman had a
    > > baby whom she
    > > breastfed…
    > >
    > > G
    > >
    > >
    > > . My final chapter was where
    > > > one sees Mrs. Onedin breastfeeding someone's child
    > > > (I wasn't supposed to see that on US TV). I am
    > > going
    > > > to check to see if this great series is on VHS or
    > > DVD
    > > > at Barnes & Noble Booksellers.
    > > > As far as it being well received I would think
    > > that
    > > > it would be as well achieved as another BBC
    > > production
    > > > "Doctor Who". It is sometimes unfortunate, and
    > > very
    > > > confusing at times, when actors/actresses are
    > > > replaced.
    > > > As far as where Mr. Abraham got the name
    > > 'Onedin' it
    > > > may have some historical connotations. But I know
    > > > others on this forum might know the real answers.
    > > >
    > > > Ron
    > > > — Bill <william.whittaker1@n…> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > I'll bet Diana will have a definitive answer on
    > > > > this.
    > > > >
    > > > > But what I do remember was that it was becoming
    > > > > increasingly difficult to
    > > > > keep the cast together, as of course many of the
    > > > > actors also had other
    > > > > commitments. I think that was the main reason
    > > the
    > > > > series ended.
    > > > >
    > > > > The series lasted for over 10 years which is a
    > > > > remarkable achievement, only
    > > > > losing a few of the original members over that
    > > > > period, (most notably the
    > > > > truly excellent Michael Billington as Daniel
    > > Fogarty
    > > > > which has to be one of
    > > > > the best portrayals of a character in any TV
    > > series,
    > > > > except for Jessica
    > > > > Benton's Elizabeth, but then I am unashameably
    > > > > biased!)
    > > > >
    > > > > I also remember a radio interview with Cyril
    > > Abraham
    > > > > the creator of the
    > > > > Onedin Line where he said he had an outline of
    > > the
    > > > > story right up to the
    > > > > present day (then the 1970s) but if he ever put
    > > pen
    > > > > to paper on those or if
    > > > > they exist anywhere nobody seems to know.
    > > > >
    > > > > Bill.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > —– Original Message —–
    > > > > From: "stuart_fanning" <stuart_fanning@y…>
    > > > > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:20 PM
    > > > > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Series 8 – Planned to
    > > be
    > > > > the final series?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > The series 8 episode: A Long Way Home, was the
    > > > > final episode of the
    > > > > > Onedin Line series. Was it planned that Series
    > > 8
    > > > > would be the last
    > > > > > one, or was The Onedin Line cancelled because
    > > of
    > > > > poor ratings?
    > > > > > Anyone know the history of this?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
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    in reply to: Series 8 – Planned to be the final series? #502
    ivaradi
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    I seem to remember that episode and I believe it was
    Anne. I confronted Channel 10 (Public Broadcasting
    that showed the series) and the girl said you weren't
    supposed to see that. I believe it was Anne. I do
    not believe that the series was completely aired here
    in the states but I may not have seen all the eps
    either. Anyway I think that scene was the last of the
    series in the states. It seemed that the series ended
    shortly (for the states anyway) where JO is seen with
    his little daughter who seemed about 4 or so. (belive
    that was the same ep with Anne bfing someones child).
    Ron
    — gduch2001 <gduch2001@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    >
    > I have seen it many times & I certianly cnat'
    > remember that!! Do oyu
    > mean Anne? No Im sure that didn't happen… I think
    > you may be thin
    > king of an ep wh ere Anne was livign iwth a working
    > class woman, wehn
    > she had left james temporarily, and the woman had a
    > baby whom she
    > breastfed…
    >
    > G
    >
    >
    > . My final chapter was where
    > > one sees Mrs. Onedin breastfeeding someone's child
    > > (I wasn't supposed to see that on US TV). I am
    > going
    > > to check to see if this great series is on VHS or
    > DVD
    > > at Barnes & Noble Booksellers.
    > > As far as it being well received I would think
    > that
    > > it would be as well achieved as another BBC
    > production
    > > "Doctor Who". It is sometimes unfortunate, and
    > very
    > > confusing at times, when actors/actresses are
    > > replaced.
    > > As far as where Mr. Abraham got the name
    > 'Onedin' it
    > > may have some historical connotations. But I know
    > > others on this forum might know the real answers.
    > >
    > > Ron
    > > — Bill <william.whittaker1@n…> wrote:
    > >
    > > > I'll bet Diana will have a definitive answer on
    > > > this.
    > > >
    > > > But what I do remember was that it was becoming
    > > > increasingly difficult to
    > > > keep the cast together, as of course many of the
    > > > actors also had other
    > > > commitments. I think that was the main reason
    > the
    > > > series ended.
    > > >
    > > > The series lasted for over 10 years which is a
    > > > remarkable achievement, only
    > > > losing a few of the original members over that
    > > > period, (most notably the
    > > > truly excellent Michael Billington as Daniel
    > Fogarty
    > > > which has to be one of
    > > > the best portrayals of a character in any TV
    > series,
    > > > except for Jessica
    > > > Benton's Elizabeth, but then I am unashameably
    > > > biased!)
    > > >
    > > > I also remember a radio interview with Cyril
    > Abraham
    > > > the creator of the
    > > > Onedin Line where he said he had an outline of
    > the
    > > > story right up to the
    > > > present day (then the 1970s) but if he ever put
    > pen
    > > > to paper on those or if
    > > > they exist anywhere nobody seems to know.
    > > >
    > > > Bill.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > —– Original Message —–
    > > > From: "stuart_fanning" <stuart_fanning@y…>
    > > > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:20 PM
    > > > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Series 8 – Planned to
    > be
    > > > the final series?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > The series 8 episode: A Long Way Home, was the
    > > > final episode of the
    > > > > Onedin Line series. Was it planned that Series
    > 8
    > > > would be the last
    > > > > one, or was The Onedin Line cancelled because
    > of
    > > > poor ratings?
    > > > > Anyone know the history of this?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    in reply to: End of Onedin Line & Name #508
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    IIRC he may have been based a little on a real life shipowner called
    James Baines (hence the splittng of hte name between Willaim Baines
    and James O. ) Baines was from a small shopkeepers family like JO,
    but I dont know that mcuh about his career, excpet that I think he
    may have become bankrupt although he had been very suceessful for a
    time. IIR he was a mroe flamboyant character than James, liking ot
    party and spend his money freely…

    G

    > I believe there might also have been some inspiration for James

    Onedin from

    > the real life character Duncan Gibb,
    > http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/notable%20houses/the_grove.htm
    >
    > I think, but I can't be sure now, he was mentioned by Cyril Abraham

    in the

    > radio interview I previously referred to. My mother was a big fan

    of the

    > story, and I had taped the radio interview for her, the cassette was
    > knocking about for a long time but I don't know where it is now. A

    pity

    > because it would be really interesting to hear it again.
    >
    > Bill.
    >
    >
    > —– Original Message —–
    > From: "Diana" <moonroll@n…>
    > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:24 AM
    > Subject: [shiponedingroup] End of Onedin Line & Name

    in reply to: Series 8 – Planned to be the final series? #501
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    I have seen it many times & I certianly cnat' remember that!! Do oyu
    mean Anne? No Im sure that didn't happen… I think you may be thin
    king of an ep wh ere Anne was livign iwth a working class woman, wehn
    she had left james temporarily, and the woman had a baby whom she
    breastfed…

    G

    . My final chapter was where

    > one sees Mrs. Onedin breastfeeding someone's child
    > (I wasn't supposed to see that on US TV). I am going
    > to check to see if this great series is on VHS or DVD
    > at Barnes & Noble Booksellers.
    > As far as it being well received I would think that
    > it would be as well achieved as another BBC production
    > "Doctor Who". It is sometimes unfortunate, and very
    > confusing at times, when actors/actresses are
    > replaced.
    > As far as where Mr. Abraham got the name 'Onedin' it
    > may have some historical connotations. But I know
    > others on this forum might know the real answers.
    >
    > Ron
    > — Bill <william.whittaker1@n…> wrote:
    >
    > > I'll bet Diana will have a definitive answer on
    > > this.
    > >
    > > But what I do remember was that it was becoming
    > > increasingly difficult to
    > > keep the cast together, as of course many of the
    > > actors also had other
    > > commitments. I think that was the main reason the
    > > series ended.
    > >
    > > The series lasted for over 10 years which is a
    > > remarkable achievement, only
    > > losing a few of the original members over that
    > > period, (most notably the
    > > truly excellent Michael Billington as Daniel Fogarty
    > > which has to be one of
    > > the best portrayals of a character in any TV series,
    > > except for Jessica
    > > Benton's Elizabeth, but then I am unashameably
    > > biased!)
    > >
    > > I also remember a radio interview with Cyril Abraham
    > > the creator of the
    > > Onedin Line where he said he had an outline of the
    > > story right up to the
    > > present day (then the 1970s) but if he ever put pen
    > > to paper on those or if
    > > they exist anywhere nobody seems to know.
    > >
    > > Bill.
    > >
    > >
    > > —– Original Message —–
    > > From: "stuart_fanning" <stuart_fanning@y…>
    > > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:20 PM
    > > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Series 8 – Planned to be
    > > the final series?
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > The series 8 episode: A Long Way Home, was the
    > > final episode of the
    > > > Onedin Line series. Was it planned that Series 8
    > > would be the last
    > > > one, or was The Onedin Line cancelled because of
    > > poor ratings?
    > > > Anyone know the history of this?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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