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  • #1121
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Hi,

    Does anyone have any details about the various Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham? I recorded what I know in my contributions to the Onedin article on Wikipedia:

    'A series of Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham, set between Series Two and Series Three, appeared in Woman magazine in 1973. The plots included Robert's encounter with the attractive Amelia, a social gathering that revolves around the naming of the first Onedin steamship and an appearance by Sarah's destitute sister Constance, who is on the streets. A later tale by Abraham, For Love of the Onedins, appeared in a short-lived magazine called tvlife. This story, covering Leonora Biddulph's wedding, occurs between Series Three and Series Four and features Matt Harvey, who was Elizabeth's love interest during the fourth series. There is a slanging match between Elizabeth and Sarah, who each disparage the circumstances of the other's wedding day until Leonora intervenes to restore peace.'

    Can anyone add anything further? I'm particularly curious about one that appeared in the Daily Mirror.

    It would be nice if they could be collected together in a book/fanzine as Cyril Abraham's uncollected writings. It's thirty years since he died this year.

    Also, does anyone have any further info on Marc Harrison who played William? I've read the articles in the files but they're from years ago. I always regretted William's exit. I know he hadn't been over likeable but his last appearance presented him a little differently and it would have been interesting to see how his reappearance affected the family overall. He had depths that should have been explored.

    I enjoyed seeing all the bits and pieces on You Tube – especially from the later series, which I hadn't seen since they were first shown.

    Someone should carry on the story, as Cyril Abraham intended to do. What would have happened next?

    Michael

    #1122
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    When filming finished in Falmouth I spoke to the powers that be at the last night party, admittedly we were all in our cups at the time, and said I had a brilliant idea! How about bringing the Onedin Line bang up to date with tankers and container ships and ferries and the like with a new 'Young Mr.Onedin' fresh from university with his shiny new degree keen to take over and run the business his way, only his way was the 'Green' way, back to sail and windjammers and salty seadogs!!!
    Naturally I had someone in mind for the lead role………..I remember we all got very drunk that night.

    Regards,
    Capt.Mangled.

    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "tuppy1986" <danemead@…> wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Does anyone have any details about the various Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham? I recorded what I know in my contributions to the Onedin article on Wikipedia:
    >
    > 'A series of Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham, set between Series Two and Series Three, appeared in Woman magazine in 1973. The plots included Robert's encounter with the attractive Amelia, a social gathering that revolves around the naming of the first Onedin steamship and an appearance by Sarah's destitute sister Constance, who is on the streets. A later tale by Abraham, For Love of the Onedins, appeared in a short-lived magazine called tvlife. This story, covering Leonora Biddulph's wedding, occurs between Series Three and Series Four and features Matt Harvey, who was Elizabeth's love interest during the fourth series. There is a slanging match between Elizabeth and Sarah, who each disparage the circumstances of the other's wedding day until Leonora intervenes to restore peace.'
    >
    > Can anyone add anything further? I'm particularly curious about one that appeared in the Daily Mirror.
    >
    > It would be nice if they could be collected together in a book/fanzine as Cyril Abraham's uncollected writings. It's thirty years since he died this year.
    >
    > Also, does anyone have any further info on Marc Harrison who played William? I've read the articles in the files but they're from years ago. I always regretted William's exit. I know he hadn't been over likeable but his last appearance presented him a little differently and it would have been interesting to see how his reappearance affected the family overall. He had depths that should have been explored.
    >
    > I enjoyed seeing all the bits and pieces on You Tube – especially from the later series, which I hadn't seen since they were first shown.
    >
    > Someone should carry on the story, as Cyril Abraham intended to do. What would have happened next?
    >
    > Michael
    >

    #1123
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    I'm sure I saw Marc Harrison in a Poldark episode as someone's brother.
    Would this have been before or after Onedin?? Cheers…(It was a very small part,
    almost non speaking).

    In a message dated 4/5/2009 4:46:01 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
    advcour@btinternet.com writes:

    When filming finished in Falmouth I spoke to the powers that be at the last
    night party, admittedly we were all in our cups at the time, and said I had a
    brilliant idea! How about bringing the Onedin Line bang up to date with
    tankers and container ships and ferries and the like with a new 'Young Mr.Onedin'
    fresh from university with his shiny new degree keen to take over and run
    the business his way, only his way was the 'Green' way, back to sail and
    windjammers and salty seadogs!!!
    Naturally I had someone in mind for the lead role……..Naturally I had
    someone in mind for the lead ro

    Regards,
    Capt.Mangled.

    — In _shiponedingroup@shiponedingrshi_
    (mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com) , "tuppy1986" <danemead@..d> wrote:

    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Does anyone have any details about the various Onedin short stories by

    Cyril Abraham? I recorded what I know in my contributions to the Onedin article
    on Wikipedia:

    >
    > 'A series of Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham, set between Series Two

    and Series Three, appeared in Woman magazine in 1973. The plots included
    Robert's encounter with the attractive Amelia, a social gathering that revolves
    around the naming of the first Onedin steamship and an appearance by Sarah's
    destitute sister Constance, who is on the streets. A later tale by Abraham,
    For Love of the Onedins, appeared in a short-lived magazine called tvlife.
    This story, covering Leonora Biddulph's wedding, occurs between Series Three and
    Series Four and features Matt Harvey, who was Elizabeth's love interest
    during the fourth series. There is a slanging match between Elizabeth and Sarah,
    who each disparage the circumstances of the other's wedding day until Leonora
    intervenes to restore peace.'

    >
    > Can anyone add anything further? I'm particularly curious about one that

    appeared in the Daily Mirror.

    >
    > It would be nice if they could be collected together in a book/fanzine as

    Cyril Abraham's uncollected writings. It's thirty years since he died this
    year.

    >
    > Also, does anyone have any further info on Marc Harrison who played

    William? I've read the articles in the files but they're from years ago. I always
    regretted William's exit. I know he hadn't been over likeable but his last
    appearance presented him a little differently and it would have been interesting
    to see how his reappearance affected the family overall. He had depths that
    should have been explored.

    >
    > I enjoyed seeing all the bits and pieces on You Tube – especially from the

    later series, which I hadn't seen since they were first shown.

    >
    > Someone should carry on the story, as Cyril Abraham intended to do. What

    would have happened next?

    >
    > Michael
    >

    **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
    less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    #1124
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    The bang up to date idea could be linked to the original series by having a new member of the family tracing their ancestry … bit by bit we could learn what happened to the old Onedins in the years since 1886…dark secrets that affect the present etc.

    The role Marc Harrison played in Poldark was that of Ned Tamblyn, and I think it would have been before his run as William Frazer.

    Michael

    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, sgflikchik@… wrote:
    >
    > I'm sure I saw Marc Harrison in a Poldark episode as someone's brother.
    > Would this have been before or after Onedin?? Cheers…(It was a very small part,
    > almost non speaking).
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 4/5/2009 4:46:01 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
    > advcour@… writes:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > When filming finished in Falmouth I spoke to the powers that be at the last
    > night party, admittedly we were all in our cups at the time, and said I had a
    > brilliant idea! How about bringing the Onedin Line bang up to date with
    > tankers and container ships and ferries and the like with a new 'Young Mr.Onedin'
    > fresh from university with his shiny new degree keen to take over and run
    > the business his way, only his way was the 'Green' way, back to sail and
    > windjammers and salty seadogs!!!
    > Naturally I had someone in mind for the lead role……..Naturally I had
    > someone in mind for the lead ro
    >
    > Regards,
    > Capt.Mangled.
    >
    > — In _shiponedingroup@shiponedingrshi_
    > (mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com) , "tuppy1986" <danemead@…> wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > Does anyone have any details about the various Onedin short stories by
    > Cyril Abraham? I recorded what I know in my contributions to the Onedin article
    > on Wikipedia:
    > >
    > > 'A series of Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham, set between Series Two
    > and Series Three, appeared in Woman magazine in 1973. The plots included
    > Robert's encounter with the attractive Amelia, a social gathering that revolves
    > around the naming of the first Onedin steamship and an appearance by Sarah's
    > destitute sister Constance, who is on the streets. A later tale by Abraham,
    > For Love of the Onedins, appeared in a short-lived magazine called tvlife.
    > This story, covering Leonora Biddulph's wedding, occurs between Series Three and
    > Series Four and features Matt Harvey, who was Elizabeth's love interest
    > during the fourth series. There is a slanging match between Elizabeth and Sarah,
    > who each disparage the circumstances of the other's wedding day until Leonora
    > intervenes to restore peace.'
    > >
    > > Can anyone add anything further? I'm particularly curious about one that
    > appeared in the Daily Mirror.
    > >
    > > It would be nice if they could be collected together in a book/fanzine as
    > Cyril Abraham's uncollected writings. It's thirty years since he died this
    > year.
    > >
    > > Also, does anyone have any further info on Marc Harrison who played
    > William? I've read the articles in the files but they're from years ago. I always
    > regretted William's exit. I know he hadn't been over likeable but his last
    > appearance presented him a little differently and it would have been interesting
    > to see how his reappearance affected the family overall. He had depths that
    > should have been explored.
    > >
    > > I enjoyed seeing all the bits and pieces on You Tube – especially from the
    > later series, which I hadn't seen since they were first shown.
    > >
    > > Someone should carry on the story, as Cyril Abraham intended to do. What
    > would have happened next?
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
    > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
    >
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    >

    #1125
    Jean Drew
    Member
    Hello,

    I don't post much but this really got my creative juices flowing. I've had
    some experience as a writer, (3 novels published and 3 more contracted). Is
    there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together between us?

    Just a thought.

    Jean Drew
    Auckland, New Zealand

    —– Original Message —–
    From: "tuppy1986" <danemead@btopenworld.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:54 AM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    > The bang up to date idea could be linked to the original series by having
    > a new member of the family tracing their ancestry … bit by bit we could
    > learn what happened to the old Onedins in the years since 1886…dark
    > secrets that affect the present etc.
    >
    > The role Marc Harrison played in Poldark was that of Ned Tamblyn, and I
    > think it would have been before his run as William Frazer.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, sgflikchik@… wrote:
    >>
    >> I'm sure I saw Marc Harrison in a Poldark episode as someone's brother.
    >> Would this have been before or after Onedin?? Cheers…(It was a very
    >> small part,
    >> almost non speaking).
    >>
    >>
    >> In a message dated 4/5/2009 4:46:01 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
    >> advcour@… writes:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> When filming finished in Falmouth I spoke to the powers that be at the
    >> last
    >> night party, admittedly we were all in our cups at the time, and said I
    >> had a
    >> brilliant idea! How about bringing the Onedin Line bang up to date with
    >> tankers and container ships and ferries and the like with a new 'Young
    >> Mr.Onedin'
    >> fresh from university with his shiny new degree keen to take over and
    >> run
    >> the business his way, only his way was the 'Green' way, back to sail and
    >> windjammers and salty seadogs!!!
    >> Naturally I had someone in mind for the lead role……..Naturally I had
    >> someone in mind for the lead ro
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >> Capt.Mangled.
    >>
    >> — In _shiponedingroup@shiponedingrshi_
    >> (mailto:shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com) , "tuppy1986" <danemead@…>
    >> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > Hi,
    >> >
    >> > Does anyone have any details about the various Onedin short stories by
    >> Cyril Abraham? I recorded what I know in my contributions to the Onedin
    >> article
    >> on Wikipedia:
    >> >
    >> > 'A series of Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham, set between Series
    >> > Two
    >> and Series Three, appeared in Woman magazine in 1973. The plots included
    >> Robert's encounter with the attractive Amelia, a social gathering that
    >> revolves
    >> around the naming of the first Onedin steamship and an appearance by
    >> Sarah's
    >> destitute sister Constance, who is on the streets. A later tale by
    >> Abraham,
    >> For Love of the Onedins, appeared in a short-lived magazine called
    >> tvlife.
    >> This story, covering Leonora Biddulph's wedding, occurs between Series
    >> Three and
    >> Series Four and features Matt Harvey, who was Elizabeth's love interest
    >> during the fourth series. There is a slanging match between Elizabeth
    >> and Sarah,
    >> who each disparage the circumstances of the other's wedding day until
    >> Leonora
    >> intervenes to restore peace.'
    >> >
    >> > Can anyone add anything further? I'm particularly curious about one
    >> > that
    >> appeared in the Daily Mirror.
    >> >
    >> > It would be nice if they could be collected together in a book/fanzine
    >> > as
    >> Cyril Abraham's uncollected writings. It's thirty years since he died
    >> this
    >> year.
    >> >
    >> > Also, does anyone have any further info on Marc Harrison who played
    >> William? I've read the articles in the files but they're from years ago.
    >> I always
    >> regretted William's exit. I know he hadn't been over likeable but his
    >> last
    >> appearance presented him a little differently and it would have been
    >> interesting
    >> to see how his reappearance affected the family overall. He had depths
    >> that
    >> should have been explored.
    >> >
    >> > I enjoyed seeing all the bits and pieces on You Tube – especially from
    >> > the
    >> later series, which I hadn't seen since they were first shown.
    >> >
    >> > Someone should carry on the story, as Cyril Abraham intended to do.
    >> > What
    >> would have happened next?
    >> >
    >> > Michael
    >> >
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for
    >> $10 or
    >> less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
    >>
    >>
    >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ————————————
    >
    > Website about the Onedin Line
    > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >
    >
    >

    #1126
    coolowl2001
    Member
    On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:

    > Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    > between us?

    Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    professional writer among us 🙂

    Elaine in Brisbane, Australia

    #1127
    Jean Drew
    Member
    Hi Elaine,

    I realise that writing for TV is different from writing novels but the
    creation is a starting point.

    Jean

    —– Original Message —–
    From: "Elaine de Saxe" <coolowl@hotkey.net.au>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:43 PM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    > On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:
    >
    >> Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    >> between us?
    > Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    > professional writer among us 🙂
    >
    > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
    >
    >
    >
    > ————————————
    >
    > Website about the Onedin Line
    > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >
    >
    >

    #1128
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    I've known all these years that I should keep quiet about my 'Son of Onedin' idea!! (or got it copyrighted!!).
    You can see the scene, young handsome Onedin, stuck in boring office overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully playing at the bows, of real seamanship and romance………… Cue music…………….

    Capt.Mangled.

    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Drew" <jeandrew@…> wrote:
    >
    > Hi Elaine,
    >
    > I realise that writing for TV is different from writing novels but the
    > creation is a starting point.
    >
    > Jean
    >
    >
    > —– Original Message —–
    > From: "Elaine de Saxe" <coolowl@…>
    > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:43 PM
    > Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    >
    >
    > > On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:
    > >
    > >> Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    > >> between us?
    > > Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    > > professional writer among us 🙂
    > >
    > > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ————————————
    > >
    > > Website about the Onedin Line
    > > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >

    #1129
    Jean Drew
    Member
    Sorry Capt, I don't understand what you're saying. 🙂

    Jean

    —– Original Message —–
    From: "bty659307" <advcour@btinternet.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:10 PM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    > I've known all these years that I should keep quiet about my 'Son of
    > Onedin' idea!! (or got it copyrighted!!).
    > You can see the scene, young handsome Onedin, stuck in boring office
    > overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour
    > entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp
    > white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully playing
    > at the bows, of real seamanship and romance………… Cue
    > music…………….
    >
    > Capt.Mangled.
    >
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Drew" <jeandrew@…> wrote:
    >>
    >> Hi Elaine,
    >>
    >> I realise that writing for TV is different from writing novels but the
    >> creation is a starting point.
    >>
    >> Jean
    >>
    >>
    >> —– Original Message —–
    >> From: "Elaine de Saxe" <coolowl@…>
    >> To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:43 PM
    >> Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    >>
    >>
    >> > On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    >> >> between us?
    >> > Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    >> > professional writer among us 🙂
    >> >
    >> > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > ————————————
    >> >
    >> > Website about the Onedin Line
    >> > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ————————————
    >
    > Website about the Onedin Line
    > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >
    >
    >

    #1130
    liamegan2000
    Member
    The idea of a modern continuation of the story was in the mind of the creator of the Onedin Line.

    There was a radio interview with Cyril Abraham in the 70s when the Onedin series was at the peak of its popularity. I know this because I'd been asked to tape the interview on audio cassette for my mother, who was a big fan of Onedin, I believe it was from "Women's Hour" or some such programme.

    In the interview, Cyril Abraham talked about what had inspired the story, how the unusual surname came about, and that he'd outlined the story right up to modern times (the 1970s).

    It was not clear to me if he meant by outlined, a written outline, or if he'd simply meant he'd created the scenario in his mind, I'd have thought if anything had been written down it would have surfaced sometime since.

    Bill.

    —– Original Message —–
    From: bty659307
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:10 AM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    I've known all these years that I should keep quiet about my 'Son of Onedin' idea!! (or got it copyrighted!!).
    You can see the scene, young handsome Onedin, stuck in boring office overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully playing at the bows, of real seamanship and romance………… Cue music…………….

    Capt.Mangled.

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

    #1131
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Which bit don't you understand Jean?
    C.M

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Jean Drew
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:14 AM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    Sorry Capt, I don't understand what you're saying. 🙂

    Jean

    —– Original Message —–
    From: "bty659307" <advcour@btinternet.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:10 PM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    > I've known all these years that I should keep quiet about my 'Son of
    > Onedin' idea!! (or got it copyrighted!!).
    > You can see the scene, young handsome Onedin, stuck in boring office
    > overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour
    > entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp
    > white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully playing
    > at the bows, of real seamanship and romance………… Cue
    > music…………….
    >
    > Capt.Mangled.
    >
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Drew" <jeandrew@…> wrote:
    >>
    >> Hi Elaine,
    >>
    >> I realise that writing for TV is different from writing novels but the
    >> creation is a starting point.
    >>
    >> Jean
    >>
    >>
    >> —– Original Message —–
    >> From: "Elaine de Saxe" <coolowl@…>
    >> To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:43 PM
    >> Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    >>
    >>
    >> > On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    >> >> between us?
    >> > Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    >> > professional writer among us 🙂
    >> >
    >> > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > ————————————
    >> >
    >> > Website about the Onedin Line
    >> > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ————————————
    >
    > Website about the Onedin Line
    > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    >
    >
    >

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    #1132
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    OK then everyone, how about this:

    Young handsome Jason Onedin (John Simm, for visualisation purposes), stuck in boring office overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully playing at the bows, of real seamanship and romance…

    Jessica Frazer (Joanne Farrell, I thought, if anyone knows who I mean), current head of the Frazer Line, is descended from Robert Frazer, who took his father William's surname on learning his true parentage and was bequeathed the company by his grandmother Lady Fogarty. Jessica is attracted to Jason but also his business rival. She is far more ruthless than he suspects. She is tempted to take advantage of his tendency to daydream about sailing ships and keep only half an eye on business…

    Business aside, they are both fascinated by their family history and have been researching. Intriguing mysteries have come to light.

    In 1887, Caroline Onedin was found dead at the foot of the staircase in her home. Foul play was suspected, especially as her husband Samuel had been seen on a number of occasions wining and dining his ex-wife Charlotte. Had either Samuel or Charlotte, or both, removed the increasingly surplus Caroline? If not, then who?

    Jessica searches through a box of correspondence in the attic of the Frazer house. It belonged to Elizabeth Fogarty. Two items arrest her attention.

    A remark in a letter from Charlotte to Elizabeth refers to the possibility of Mr Dunwoody having murdered his first wife in order to marry his pretty second one.

    Another letter is from William Frazer to his mother, written from a villa abroad – and it's dated three years after William's supposedly fatal accident in Liverpool.

    Could any of these mysteries be connected?

    And so on.

    Michael

    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "bty659307" <advcour@…> wrote:
    >
    > I've known all these years that I should keep quiet about my 'Son of Onedin' idea!! (or got it copyrighted!!).
    > You can see the scene, young handsome Onedin, stuck in boring office overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully playing at the bows, of real seamanship and romance………… Cue music…………….
    >
    > Capt.Mangled.
    >
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Drew" <jeandrew@> wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi Elaine,
    > >
    > > I realise that writing for TV is different from writing novels but the
    > > creation is a starting point.
    > >
    > > Jean
    > >
    > >
    > > —– Original Message —–
    > > From: "Elaine de Saxe" <coolowl@>
    > > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:43 PM
    > > Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    > >
    > >
    > > > On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    > > >> between us?
    > > > Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    > > > professional writer among us 🙂
    > > >
    > > > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > ————————————
    > > >
    > > > Website about the Onedin Line
    > > > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >

    #1133
    Jean Drew
    Member
    Hi CM

    I misread it. Sorry,

    Jean

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    From: "Richard" <richard.dodds2@btinternet.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:53 AM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES

    > Which bit don't you understand Jean?
    > C.M
    > —– Original Message —–
    > From: Jean Drew
    > To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:14 AM
    > Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    >
    >
    > Sorry Capt, I don't understand what you're saying. 🙂
    >
    > Jean
    >
    > —– Original Message —–
    > From: "bty659307" <advcour@btinternet.com>
    > To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:10 PM
    > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    >
    > > I've known all these years that I should keep quiet about my 'Son of
    > > Onedin' idea!! (or got it copyrighted!!).
    > > You can see the scene, young handsome Onedin, stuck in boring office
    > > overlooking container port, tallship race gathering in the harbour
    > > entrance, sets him off daydreaming about Gt.Grandfather James, of crisp
    > > white sails, of masts heeled to a stiff breeze, dolphins joyfully
    > playing
    > > at the bows, of real seamanship and romance………… Cue
    > > music…………….
    > >
    > > Capt.Mangled.
    > >
    > > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Drew" <jeandrew@…>
    > wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Hi Elaine,
    > >>
    > >> I realise that writing for TV is different from writing novels but the
    > >> creation is a starting point.
    > >>
    > >> Jean
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> —– Original Message —–
    > >> From: "Elaine de Saxe" <coolowl@…>
    > >> To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    > >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:43 PM
    > >> Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: SHORT STORIES
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> > On 06/04/2009, at 9:57 AM, Jean Drew wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> Is there any reason why some of us couldn't put something together
    > >> >> between us?
    > >> > Sounds like a very good idea to me! Since we've got at least one
    > >> > professional writer among us 🙂
    > >> >
    > >> > Elaine in Brisbane, Australia
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > ————————————
    > >> >
    > >> > Website about the Onedin Line
    > >> > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ————————————
    > >
    > > Website about the Onedin Line
    > > http://www.sound-research.co.uk/onedin_line.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    > Website about the Onedin Line
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    #1134
    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "tuppy1986" <danemead@…> wrote:

    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Does anyone have any details about the various Onedin short stories by Cyril Abraham? I recorded what I know in my contributions to the Onedin article on Wikipedia:
    >
    >

    <ahem> I actually have a copy of these stories

    Fi

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