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I have a horrible feeling I may know what the "legal wrangle" surrounding re-issues of the show might be; unless I'm very mistaken, it's going to be over the music rights. It would only take one incomplete or incorrectly filled out cue sheet to stop the whole series going out. To see just how bad this can get, check out the furore over the DVD re-issues of The Fugitive, which will probably now stop after having been the best-selling TV reissue ever. Just google "fugitive dvd music" and stand by to be horrified. The bootleggers are cleaning up. By the way, the music of The Fugitive was recorded entirely in London in great secrecy by the LSO, to get round an industrial dispute between the studio and American musicians. What the studio did to get the second series of The Fugitive out on DVD is too disgusting to describe; suffice it to say that I will never allow one of the second series DVDs in my house unless it is to be used under coffee cups or as
Christmas tree decorations. If Pete Rugolo needs a hitman, he should give me a call.Another show, Dark Skies, was all set for DVD when the music bill came in; it was more than the manufacturing costs and the projected five-year sales combined and doubled. As a result, you will never, ever see Dark Skies on an official DVD. Again, bonanza for the bootleggers.
I really, really hope I'm wrong on this, but given the history, I'm not hopeful.
Bill Scanlan Murphy
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All true.If the industry and the representatives of those involved could just get their act together a lot more classic stuff would be available to folk. I suppose greed and self interest are the factors that rule in all of this. Having said that I do believe those who worked making a programmes like Onedin (and others of course) should get just reward for their part in it.
With The Onedin Line, I have and always will buy DVDs of each series as they become available, I think most of us will if we can. It is worth noting the all the ones I have originate from the Netherlands, makes me suspect this is some work-around for legal problems.
And while not excusing "illegal copying" you can't blame people for using the torrent sites, when this is the only way they can get series 6, 7, and 8 (and possibly 5 if the problems aren't resolved on that).
Bootlegging to me is commercial size operations making big bucks as was rife not long ago in places like Hong Kong, not people swapping their own off-air recordings but I suppose not all will agree with me there.
Bill.
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From: William Murphy
To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: [shiponedingroup] "Legal wrangle"I have a horrible feeling I may know what the "legal wrangle" surrounding re-issues of the show might be; unless I'm very mistaken, it's going to be over the music rights. It would only take one incomplete or incorrectly filled out cue sheet to stop the whole series going out. To see just how bad this can get, check out the furore over the DVD re-issues of The Fugitive, which will probably now stop after having been the best-selling TV reissue ever. Just google "fugitive dvd music" and stand by to be horrified. The bootleggers are cleaning up. By the way, the music of The Fugitive was recorded entirely in London in great secrecy by the LSO, to get round an industrial dispute between the studio and American musicians. What the studio did to get the second series of The Fugitive out on DVD is too disgusting to describe; suffice it to say that I will never allow one of the second series DVDs in my house unless it is to be used under coffee cups or as
Christmas tree decorations. If Pete Rugolo needs a hitman, he should give me a call.Another show, Dark Skies, was all set for DVD when the music bill came in; it was more than the manufacturing costs and the projected five-year sales combined and doubled. As a result, you will never, ever see Dark Skies on an official DVD. Again, bonanza for the bootleggers.
I really, really hope I'm wrong on this, but given the history, I'm not hopeful.
Bill Scanlan Murphy
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Ive got my series 5 off ebay,very pleased.I must not be as picky
about the quality as I thought it was good.Very glad to have had the
old copies from tape as I would never have seen the later series
otherwise but it is nice to see 5 with a nice stable picture.Fingers
crossed for the rest to be released now!S
— In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, "Bill"
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> All true.
>
> If the industry and the representatives of those involved could
just get their act together a lot more classic stuff would be
available to folk. I suppose greed and self interest are the factors
that rule in all of this. Having said that I do believe those who
worked making a programmes like Onedin (and others of course) should
get just reward for their part in it.>
> With The Onedin Line, I have and always will buy DVDs of each
series as they become available, I think most of us will if we can.
It is worth noting the all the ones I have originate from the
Netherlands, makes me suspect this is some work-around for legal
problems.>
> And while not excusing "illegal copying" you can't blame people for
using the torrent sites, when this is the only way they can get
series 6, 7, and 8 (and possibly 5 if the problems aren't resolved on
that).>
> Bootlegging to me is commercial size operations making big bucks as
was rife not long ago in places like Hong Kong, not people swapping
their own off-air recordings but I suppose not all will agree with me
there.>
> Bill.
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> —– Original Message —–
> From: William Murphy
> To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:59 PM
> Subject: [shiponedingroup] "Legal wrangle"
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> I have a horrible feeling I may know what the "legal wrangle"
surrounding re-issues of the show might be; unless I'm very mistaken,
it's going to be over the music rights. It would only take one
incomplete or incorrectly filled out cue sheet to stop the whole
series going out. To see just how bad this can get, check out the
furore over the DVD re-issues of The Fugitive, which will probably
now stop after having been the best-selling TV reissue ever. Just
google "fugitive dvd music" and stand by to be horrified. The
bootleggers are cleaning up. By the way, the music of The Fugitive
was recorded entirely in London in great secrecy by the LSO, to get
round an industrial dispute between the studio and American
musicians. What the studio did to get the second series of The
Fugitive out on DVD is too disgusting to describe; suffice it to say
that I will never allow one of the second series DVDs in my house
unless it is to be used under coffee cups or as> Christmas tree decorations. If Pete Rugolo needs a hitman, he
should give me a call.
>
> Another show, Dark Skies, was all set for DVD when the music bill
came in; it was more than the manufacturing costs and the projected
five-year sales combined and doubled. As a result, you will never,
ever see Dark Skies on an official DVD. Again, bonanza for the
bootleggers.>
> I really, really hope I'm wrong on this, but given the history,
I'm not hopeful.
>
> Bill Scanlan Murphy
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