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  • #1096
    mishkabishka
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    Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there, but is there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!
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    #1097
    ivaradi
    Keymaster
    Hi there,

    You are aware that there are about 13 series of the show, in total about 95
    episodes. You can get some on DVD but it's very hard to find anything on DVD
    past the fourth series. Good luck.

    In a message dated 1/22/2009 9:36:11 A.M. GMT Standard Time,
    robinadair@hotmail.com writes:

    Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there, but is
    there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in
    the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!
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    #1098
    liamegan2000
    Member
    Hello, welcome to our little group.

    There are 8 series consisting of 91 episodes, of these series 1, 2, 3, 4,
    and 5 are available on DVD. 6 to 8 are not commercially available as yet,
    and there seems no immediate prospect of these.

    The above mentioned are available from The Netherlands, You can sometimes
    buy the DVD's at http://www.nl.bol.com or http://www.freerecordshop.nl
    eBay is another place to look. There may be some others so if anyone knows
    please tell us.

    These are original English soundtrack BUT are region 2 discs, which I
    believe can cause problems for North American DVD players and TVs. The
    simplest solution is I'm told to buy a DVD player which is capable of PAL
    playback to a NTSC TV, these are available (I'm also told) but how much and
    where from I don't know – I invite anyone from over the pond to jump in with
    some info here!

    Series 6 to 8 are floating around the internet if it is legal for you to
    obtain them as "torrents" in your country. These are compressed AVI "Xvid"
    files, these will play on any PC and some stand-alone DVD players.

    Bill.

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    From: "robin wilson" <robinadair@hotmail.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:47 AM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] any place to find a complete boxed set of The
    Onedin Line

    Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there, but is
    there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in
    the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!
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    #1099
    elsie_h_99
    Member
    I am dumbfounded as to why they won't offer these for us folks in region 2. They gave us the first 8 episodes only and that was it.

    Elsie in MD

    #1100
    liamegan2000
    Member
    I share the sentiment,

    In the UK we are lucky, because the ones available lately are not intended for British sale, but being region 2 and the same TV system, and because of EU laws we can buy them.

    There is trouble, I think, is with the rights payment for the series in the English speaking world. – That's my guess anyway.

    Bill.

    —– Original Message —–
    From: elsieh
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:07 PM
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line

    I am dumbfounded as to why they won't offer these for us folks in region 2. They gave us the first 8 episodes only and that was it.

    Elsie in MD

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    #1101
    coolowl2001
    Member
    On 23/01/2009, at 9:07 AM, elsieh wrote:

    > I am dumbfounded as to why they won't offer these for us folks in
    > region 2

    And I am dumbfounded why they have ANY region at all!! A lot of the
    old TV programmes are region-free (eg Lovejoy). Since the episodes
    are not showing anywhere that I know about, I don't see the reason
    for the region. Not that there is any real reason except a cash-grab
    for the regions, anyway but I'm not going to sort that one out in the
    next 5 minutes 😉

    On the subject of PAL and NTSC – from the mid-80s I had a TV which
    played either format without a hitch. Even my old VHS machine had no
    problems – and it's more the TV than the player btw. I would be very
    surprised if today there is any TV less than 20 years old, never mind
    DVD player which would not play either format with equel dexterity.
    The VHSs machines and DVD players sold here all have 'NTSC playback'
    emblazoned on them. Working from the other end, perhaps the ones for
    sale in the US have 'PAL playback' somewhere on them or in the book.
    My understanding is that the chips necessary are cheap and it is
    simpler and therefore economic to make all the units the same rather
    than make specifically for a country or region.

    And it's long been a source of frustration that Onedin, with its
    world-wide popularity, is still languishing without being available
    as a boxed set. Just in the last 12 months we've bought sets of Pie
    in the Sky, Tenko, Waiting for God to name a few. All far newer than
    Onedin and probably less popular. There is a hitch somewhere – a
    bottleneck – I'd love to know what it is or who it is and give them a
    kick somewhere significant. People are waiting patiently with money
    burning a hole in their pockets and the people in control couldn't
    (so it seems) care less about their customers. Aaarrgghh.

    Elaine in Brisbane, Austrlia

    #1102
    mishkabishka
    Member
    Hello! ..and to Elaine, and Bill, and Sgflikchik thank you very, very much for your replies. You know, my husband and I have only seen the first 8 episodes and already we are loving this series. (Have any of you seen the Horatio Hornblower series?) And to think we have another 87 or so to go…it's nice to anticipate that. Back several years the James Herriot All Creatures Great and Small made us feel as if we were living in that series…they do such a great job on these series. We adore the Lovejoy series also. Have only seen the first season of that. Here in USA we have a company, Netflix, that has tons of old and new stuff that you can order online with a subscription…very little fee, and get prepaid postage return DVD's as often as I order…we reserved the remaining seasons of Lovejoy…and then I checked online about The Onedin Line and they don't have that, but I plan to call them and ask if they can get something that will play here and still give them a return on their investment…my next step is to check out my DVD player and television, to see if they have hidden capabilities… I have a multi region VHS player….and here also around Feb 17 (or so..the scheduled date has already been pushed back once) this entire country is changing from analog signal to digital signal…this may influence us as to whether we get a new DVD or TV …..The Onedin Line originally came to my notice while looking over the offerings in my local library…but they only have the first 8 episodes…they are probably subject to the same shortage of availability…O.K., I'm off to check out my current DVD player and TV……

    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.comFrom: coolowl@hotkey.net.auDate: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:00:38 +1000Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line

    On 23/01/2009, at 9:07 AM, elsieh wrote:> I am dumbfounded as to why they won't offer these for us folks in > region 2And I am dumbfounded why they have ANY region at all!! A lot of the old TV programmes are region-free (eg Lovejoy). Since the episodes are not showing anywhere that I know about, I don't see the reason for the region. Not that there is any real reason except a cash-grab for the regions, anyway but I'm not going to sort that one out in the next 5 minutes ;-)On the subject of PAL and NTSC – from the mid-80s I had a TV which played either format without a hitch. Even my old VHS machine had no problems – and it's more the TV than the player btw. I would be very surprised if today there is any TV less than 20 years old, never mind DVD player which would not play either format with equel dexterity. The VHSs machines and DVD players sold here all have 'NTSC playback' emblazoned on them. Working from the other end, perhaps the ones for sale in the US have 'PAL playback' somewhere on them or in the book. My understanding is that the chips necessary are cheap and it is simpler and therefore economic to make all the units the same rather than make specifically for a country or region.And it's long been a source of frustration that Onedin, with its world-wide popularity, is still languishing without being available as a boxed set. Just in the last 12 months we've bought sets of Pie in the Sky, Tenko, Waiting for God to name a few. All far newer than Onedin and probably less popular. There is a hitch somewhere – a bottleneck – I'd love to know what it is or who it is and give them a kick somewhere significant. People are waiting patiently with money burning a hole in their pockets and the people in control couldn't (so it seems) care less about their customers. Aaarrgghh.Elaine in Brisbane, Austrlia

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    #1103
    whlongyard
    Member
    The first couple of seasons of Lovejoy are great, but then it turns silly.
    My wife and I just watched the first season of CHEF, which was highly
    recommended, but it was awful. Nothing like Fawlty Towers, which was
    great… to the point of being the best farce I've ever seen.

    If you like ONEDIN LINE, you'll also like POLDARK. The whole series is
    available. I'm talking about the 1970s series with Robin Ellis, not the
    1990s Poldark, concerning a younger generation.

    I also enjoyed the lesser known A FAMILY AT WAR, about a English family
    dealing with the early days of WWII.

    Bill Longyard

    —– Original Message —–
    From: "robin wilson" <robinadair@hotmail.com>
    To: <shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:01 PM
    Subject: RE: [shiponedingroup] any place to find a complete boxed set of The
    Onedin Line

    Hello! ..and to Elaine, and Bill, and Sgflikchik thank you very, very much
    for your replies. You know, my husband and I have only seen the first 8
    episodes and already we are loving this series. (Have any of you seen the
    Horatio Hornblower series?) And to think we have another 87 or so to
    go…it's nice to anticipate that. Back several years the James Herriot All
    Creatures Great and Small made us feel as if we were living in that
    series…they do such a great job on these series. We adore the Lovejoy
    series also. Have only seen the first season of that. Here in USA we have a
    company, Netflix, that has tons of old and new stuff that you can order
    online with a subscription…very little fee, and get prepaid postage
    return DVD's as often as I order…we reserved the remaining seasons of
    Lovejoy…and then I checked online about The Onedin Line and they don't
    have that, but I plan to call them and ask if they can get something that
    will play here and still give them a return on their investment…my next
    step is to check out my DVD player and television, to see if they have
    hidden capabilities… I have a multi region VHS player….and here also
    around Feb 17 (or so..the scheduled date has already been pushed back once)
    this entire country is changing from analog signal to digital signal…this
    may influence us as to whether we get a new DVD or TV …..The Onedin Line
    originally came to my notice while looking over the offerings in my local
    library…but they only have the first 8 episodes…they are probably
    subject to the same shortage of availability…O.K., I'm off to check out my
    current DVD player and TV……

    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.comFrom: coolowl@hotkey.net.auDate: Fri, 23
    Jan 2009 11:00:38 +1000Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] any place to find a
    complete boxed set of The Onedin Line

    On 23/01/2009, at 9:07 AM, elsieh wrote:> I am dumbfounded as to why they
    won't offer these for us folks in > region 2And I am dumbfounded why they
    have ANY region at all!! A lot of the old TV programmes are region-free (eg
    Lovejoy). Since the episodes are not showing anywhere that I know about, I
    don't see the reason for the region. Not that there is any real reason
    except a cash-grab for the regions, anyway but I'm not going to sort that
    one out in the next 5 minutes ;-)On the subject of PAL and NTSC – from the
    mid-80s I had a TV which played either format without a hitch. Even my old
    VHS machine had no problems – and it's more the TV than the player btw. I
    would be very surprised if today there is any TV less than 20 years old,
    never mind DVD player which would not play either format with equel
    dexterity. The VHSs machines and DVD players sold here all have 'NTSC
    playback' emblazoned on them. Working from the other end, perhaps the ones
    for sale in the US have 'PAL playback' somewhere on them or in the book. My
    understanding is that the chips necessary are cheap and it is simpler and
    therefore economic to make all the units the same rather than make
    specifically for a country or region.And it's long been a source of
    frustration that Onedin, with its world-wide popularity, is still
    languishing without being available as a boxed set. Just in the last 12
    months we've bought sets of Pie in the Sky, Tenko, Waiting for God to name a
    few. All far newer than Onedin and probably less popular. There is a hitch
    somewhere – a bottleneck – I'd love to know what it is or who it is and give
    them a kick somewhere significant. People are waiting patiently with money
    burning a hole in their pockets and the people in control couldn't (so it
    seems) care less about their customers. Aaarrgghh.Elaine in Brisbane,
    Austrlia

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    #1104
    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, robin wilson <robinadair@…>
    wrote:

    >
    >
    > Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there,

    but is there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that
    will play in the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!

    > _________________________________________________________________

    I belong to another 'cult' message board and what the folks in the US
    (or other non-Region 2 areas) do is buy Region 2 disks and then 'hack'
    their DVD player to be region-free.

    There are websites which give the 'hack' codes for each model of DVD
    player.

    I give that advice in good faith – please don't blame me if it goes
    pear-shaped!!

    #1105
    liamegan2000
    Member
    The problem as I understand it is not just the region, as you correctly say many players can be "hacked" to play any region, this might seem an alarming term but normally is in fact only entering some code in from the keypad on the remote, usually with the tray open. Sites such as:
    http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks have lots of info.

    But apparently this is not always enough for North American equipment. And it is due to the differing TV standard.

    USA = NTSC
    Europe = PAL (mostly).

    This refers to the system used for TV, the two are not compatible, although it seems a lot of DVD players will play PAL DVD discs in a way compatible for NTSC TVs. (Anyone who can confirm?). We are luckier the other way around in the UK. I've never come across a DVD player that can't play NTSC discs to our PAL TVs.

    A somewhat laborious work-around is to "rip" a PAL DVD on a PC using "DVD Decrypter", then from the resulting files use "TMPGEnc DVD Author 3" to re-author a DVD but set to NTSC output, in other words it converts from PAL to NTSC, these files are then burnt to a new disc.

    Naturally this must break various copyrights and so forth, but I believe in the USA you are allowed to make a backup copy of your discs, so you should be ok (?).

    Bill

    —– Original Message —–
    From: bty261364
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:27 PM
    Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line

    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, robin wilson <robinadair@…>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    > Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there,
    but is there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that
    will play in the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!
    > __________________________________________________________

    I belong to another 'cult' message board and what the folks in the US
    (or other non-Region 2 areas) do is buy Region 2 disks and then 'hack'
    their DVD player to be region-free.

    There are websites which give the 'hack' codes for each model of DVD
    player.

    I give that advice in good faith – please don't blame me if it goes
    pear-shaped!!

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    #1106
    mishkabishka
    Member
    To William and Bill and Bty261364 and the others, you are all so generous with your help. Thank you for your replies. They are all helpful. I am learning so much about this…I'll check out that videohelp website..in the meantime, I am in the process of figuring out the possibilities my current, but somewhat older DVD player, seems everything in the tech/digital world is "old" after 1-2 years anymore, if I can hack my current machine, great, but if not, go to plan B. Also, anybody out there also from USA? The changeover from analog signal to digital has many people buying little boxes and antennas and now there is info that there will even be free digital channels if you can receive them. There is so much info/rumor floating around out there, I kinda want to wait until the dust settles and see what really is available. Because it could happen this way…I could get a multisystem DVD player that would play multisystem discs, but then when the changeover to digital happens and somewhere between the DVD and the TV the little boxes somehow aren't compatible, well, I just will believe it all when I can see it working….still, I went ahead and bought the Onedin complete series that was on Ebay, you'll see it if you surf the Onedin Line boxed set, and there is good advice from them on where to buy a DVD player from Philips that will work….somehow, someway this will work out..I just want to do it without extra boxes, antennas, cords, connectors, etc.

    I also was thinking to myself, how interesting it is that humans, since the dawn of time, the moment we lifted our eyes up from seeing the marvel of the first campfire, how we have loved to see stories played out, dramatized in the light of that first campfire…I'm bemused at myself for going to this effort to see the rest of the Onedin series……..we don't even watch television, we use Netflix and we can choose what we want to watch…I got fed up TV with punching the remote over and over and there was nothing decent or intelligent to watch it seemed…so we dumped our satellite server…….so many shows that just pander to the lowest level of brain function…. that was almost 2 years ago…we mainly miss the news (which we get from radio now) and the history channel, discovery, black and white movies, and series like the Onedin line, and yes we've seen the original older Poldark…that was good…I just didn't want to pay that monthly fee for nothing…what the cable and satellite companies should do is let people CHOOSE the stations they want and make custom packages …then I might be tempted to go back, but not now with the programming the way it is….ok, I've talked too much….

    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.comFrom: william.whittaker1@ntlworld.comDate: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:15:03 +0000Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line

    The problem as I understand it is not just the region, as you correctly say many players can be "hacked" to play any region, this might seem an alarming term but normally is in fact only entering some code in from the keypad on the remote, usually with the tray open. Sites such as:http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks have lots of info.But apparently this is not always enough for North American equipment. And it is due to the differing TV standard.USA = NTSCEurope = PAL (mostly).This refers to the system used for TV, the two are not compatible, although it seems a lot of DVD players will play PAL DVD discs in a way compatible for NTSC TVs. (Anyone who can confirm?). We are luckier the other way around in the UK. I've never come across a DVD player that can't play NTSC discs to our PAL TVs.A somewhat laborious work-around is to "rip" a PAL DVD on a PC using "DVD Decrypter", then from the resulting files use "TMPGEnc DVD Author 3" to re-author a DVD but set to NTSC output, in other words it converts from PAL to NTSC, these files are then burnt to a new disc.Naturally this must break various copyrights and so forth, but I believe in the USA you are allowed to make a backup copy of your discs, so you should be ok (?).Bill—– Original Message —– From: bty261364 To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:27 PMSubject: [shiponedingroup] Re: any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line— In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, robin wilson <robinadair@…> wrote:>> > Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there, but is there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!> __________________________________________________________I belong to another 'cult' message board and what the folks in the US (or other non-Region 2 areas) do is buy Region 2 disks and then 'hack' their DVD player to be region-free.There are websites which give the 'hack' codes for each model of DVD player. I give that advice in good faith – please don't blame me if it goes pear-shaped!! ———————————————————-No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG – http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1931 – Release Date: 2/2/2009 7:21 PM[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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    #1107
    osgoodboy
    Member
    A friend of mine lived in California for a couple of years recently
    and he bought a very cheap DVD player which he discovered played DVD's
    from all regions. I think it was less than US$30.
    #1108
    — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, robin wilson <robinadair@…> wrote:

    >
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    > Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is already out there, but is there a source for a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in the USA? Any help would be just wonderful and appreciated!
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    Robin, I don't know about the whole set, but just bought series 1 to 5 on e-bay $95 +3

    Dave

    #1109
    elsie_h_99
    Member
    Dave, was the quality good and what seller did you buy from?

    Elsie in MD

     

    — On Mon, 3/9/09, etique@pacbell.net <etique@pacbell.net> wrote:

    > From: etique@pacbell.net <etique@pacbell.net>
    > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line
    > To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 6:55 PM
    > — In shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com, robin wilson
    > <robinadair@…> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is
    > already out there, but is there a source for a complete
    > boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in the USA? Any
    > help would be just wonderful and appreciated!
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    > Robin, I don't know about the whole set, but just
    > bought series 1 to 5 on e-bay $95 +3
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
    >
    > ————–

    #1110
    Elsie, I have not received the set yet so I can not comment on the quality. The seller said he had purchased the North American� rights and professionally reproduced the 27 dvd's. I imagine the quality is excellent. The only problem was on disc 20, he could not eliminate the Dutch sub-titles. To me this is not an issue. I so love the series and watch my old vhs tapes over and over. By the way, I am selling season 1 and 2 on vhs if you know any one who's interested..All the Best,� Dave

    — On Tue, 3/10/09, elsieh <elsie_h_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
    From: elsieh <elsie_h_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: [shiponedingroup] Re: any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line
    To: shiponedingroup@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 7:57 AM

    Dave, was the quality good and what seller did you buy from?

    Elsie in MD

    — On Mon, 3/9/09, etique@pacbell. net <etique@pacbell. net> wrote:

    > From: etique@pacbell. net <etique@pacbell. net>

    > Subject: [shiponedingroup] Re: any place to find a complete boxed set of The Onedin Line

    > To: shiponedingroup@ yahoogroups. com

    > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 6:55 PM

    > — In shiponedingroup@ yahoogroups. com, robin wilson

    > <robinadair@ …> wrote:

    > >

    > >

    > > Hello, just joined up..perhaps this questions is

    > already out there, but is there a source for a complete

    > boxed set of The Onedin Line that will play in the USA? Any

    > help would be just wonderful and appreciated!

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    > Robin, I don't know about the whole set, but just

    > bought series 1 to 5 on e-bay $95 +3

    >

    > Dave

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